4m50 turbo upgrade

[boostin]

Do you know what flange it is?

Not sure I ordered a gasket so when I get it I will find out...I think it's the 01-04 4m50 that might work.I will order that gasket next to see

 

[dtruzinski]

Hmmm... the link works for me.

Anyway, go to steinbauer.cc/au and do a search for 4M50. You should see quite a few FE models listed.

If you find the chip you are after you can contact Alan, as he is a Steinbauer reseller.

Here's a product sheet I found on their site

 

[boostin]

Here's a product sheet I found on their site

Yeah that's the sheet I found. It looks like all the 4m50 use the same chip except the one at the top

 

[pugslyyy]

Looks like about $1000 for the chip?

 

[boostin]

So after a bunch of research last night seems that the 00-04 4m50 has a td05 - 16 with a 10cm exhaust housing, with what seems to be a t3 flange.

05-07 seems to have downsized to td04 - 15 g with a 6cm housing abd a td04 flange. Down sized it seems to make the egr work better.

08-10 is back up to td05 - 13 I think with a vnt hot side and a td05 flange which should be a t3.

The 08-10 despite having a ton of emissions added actually gained 10 hp

 

[pugslyyy]

So after a bunch of research last night seems that the 00-04 4m50 has a td05 - 16 with a 10cm exhaust housing, with what seems to be a t3 flange.

05-07 seems to have downsized to td04 - 15 g with a 6cm housing abd a td04 flange. Down sized it seems to make the egr work better.

08-10 is back up to td05 - 13 I think with a vnt hot side and a td05 flange which should be a t3.

The 08-10 despite having a ton of emissions added actually gained 10 hp

that makes sense, since we had always surmised that the high backpressure was emissions related. 08 added the DPF so they were able to decrease the backpressure and still get the emissions results they needed.

what do the 2 different flanges look like?

 

[DzlToy]

The 08-10 despite having a ton of emissions added actually gained 10 hp

I presume this is due to the VGT. These motors are quite robust and could be powerhouses if there were a supporting aftermarket for the foundational components such as turbos, injectors/pump and electronic tuning.

With these components and proper tuning, 300 -350 HP and 600 - 650 TQ should be reliably achievable. That should cover off roading, steep mountain passes with a heavy camper body on the back, towing and just about anything else you can think of. The auto trans will handle it stock, as it is the OEM trans on the Dodge/Cummins 3500 chassis cab trucks. (Aisin 68RC)

Does Steinbauer offer custom tuning or can you modify their tune with a laptop?

 

[boostin]

I presume this is due to the VGT. These motors are quite robust and could be powerhouses if there were a supporting aftermarket for the foundational components such as turbos, injectors/pump and electronic tuning.

With these components and proper tuning, 300 -350 HP and 600 - 650 TQ should be reliably achievable. That should cover off roading, steep mountain passes with a heavy camper body on the back, towing and just about anything else you can think of. The auto trans will handle it stock, as it OEM for the Dodge Cummins 3500 chassis cab trucks. (Aisin 68RC)

Does Steinbauer offer custom tuning or can you modify their tune with a laptop?

Yah they use that trans all the way up to ram 5500 with the 6.7 cummins.

 

[boostin]

Also the 05-07 is a similar common rail as the dodge cummins 6bt, even a similar Bosch cp3 injection pump..


I know the m prop valves on the dodge you can upgrade for more fuel

 

[DzlToy]

If you REALLY want to keep the 4M50 and tune it, this is the only solution that I know of. Get out your credit card:

http://www.destroked.com/zeus.php

setup for "popular" engines, but can be used to control any common rail/electronic diesel engine.

 

[boostin]

If you REALLY want to keep the 4M50 and tune it, this is the only solution that I know of. Get out your credit card:

http://www.destroked.com/zeus.php

setup for "popular" engines, but can be used to control any common rail/electronic diesel engine.

Ha ha maybe down the road.

Sadly my truck is a work vehicle so it can't be down a few months doing a 6bt swap.

So its a 4m50 power house or I am truck shopping

 

[SkiFreak]

Does Steinbauer offer custom tuning or can you modify their tune with a laptop?

I have talked with the guys at Steinbauer here in Australia and was told that they were the ones that did the Canter mappings. So... technically it is possible that they could do a custom mapping for you but the big question is, would they?
You would probably have to get in touch with them directly for an answer to that question. I am guessing that a custom mapping might involve some form of warranty waiver too.

 

[DzlToy]

My truck is long since past its warranty days. It is an 07 with over 200,000 miles on it.

The stand alone ECM linked above would replace the Fuso ECM completely, which would allow custom tuning if Steinbauer did not offer that. Not sure where a 6BT swap came in, but it has been done. It just hangs waaayyyy out the back. You almost need an Xtra Cab, like an FRR to cover up the engine. Of course you would lose some bed space as well. That, however, would resolve your turbo, power and flange matching problems

Interested to see what you come up with on the different turbos, gaskets, etc.

 

[boostin]

Yeah I am interested as well. Any thing has to be better then what is in there...

Unless my truck has a actual running problem it seems rather useless on the high way. Decent power in town, so the only thing I can figure is the turbo is a massive restriction

 

[boostin]

Off to alaska for work, should be back in two weeks then should have all my parts to see what I can fit