4xe
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T-Willy
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Totally agree. 50 MPGe is a big deal for range and efficiency.
There's been some chatter, I told my dealer to call me as soon as 4xe gladiators can be ordered. I think the 4xe is a way better package than the hemi. Electric is way more efficient at low speeds so off roading is arguably the killer application for it - I believe they did the entire rubicon trail on electric only in the 4xe wrangler. Going from electric only to max regen and back again would provide amazing range off road compared to gas only. It also provides a nice torque boost for towing.
SSF556
SE Expedition Society
The 4xe will be heavier than a diesel powered Gladiator cutting into payload even more.
Range will not be consistent.
We are seeing these issues on Class 6-8 trucks. Actually the Class 8 trucks will be allowed to gross out at 83,000 pounds while a diesel powered Class 8 truck will be stuck at 80,000 pounds. This increase is based on the weight of batteries, motors, cooling systems etc on the trucks vs diesel.
Also a quick comparison. To charge 10 Class 8 semi trucks is equivalent to the power need to supply 1000 average American homes!
Range will not be consistent.
We are seeing these issues on Class 6-8 trucks. Actually the Class 8 trucks will be allowed to gross out at 83,000 pounds while a diesel powered Class 8 truck will be stuck at 80,000 pounds. This increase is based on the weight of batteries, motors, cooling systems etc on the trucks vs diesel.
Also a quick comparison. To charge 10 Class 8 semi trucks is equivalent to the power need to supply 1000 average American homes!
T-Willy
Well-known member
Based on what data? Despite higher curb weight, the Wrangler 4xe retained its payload.
MarcusBrody
Active member
I'm very interested in it, but more in the Gladiator version than the Wrangler Unlimited. I have a kid/dog taking up the second row, so I want the bigger storage option. Hopefully by the end of year, I'll be able to cross shop (at least with released specs) the Gladiator 4xe with Ranger/Maverick hybrid options.
Jurfie
Adventurer
Good idea; throw the kid, dog and spouse in the bed and have a peaceful road trip!
Todd780
OverCamper
There was a discussion happening about it...
expeditionportal.com
Electrify the Wrangler? Well, yeah...why the heck not!
Yup...According to this Car and Driver story, Jeep Now Also Is On The Bandwagon Making Impressive Claims About Its Upcoming Line of EV’s...Including Soon An Hybrid Electric Wrangler! What do think about that? Would you be inclined to buy an electric Wrangler...or perhaps a hybrid one...
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autism family travels
Active member
I am in ASAP. I want the 4xe for our wrangler, and get a full electric for our other rig. I am hoping Jeep releases something fully electric in the small awd SUV segment with 450km range in Cold climates. Bring it on JEEP!
deserteagle56
Adventurer
I would love it...if it proves as dependable as a non-hybrid vehicle.
To me, out exploring out in the middle of nowhere - a hundred miles from the nearest pavement - dependability is paramount. In all the surveys I've seen, electrical problems are what most people report in any of the newer vehicles...just follow the Jeep forums as I do as a Rubicon owner and its scary how many of these brand spanking new vehicles are leaving their owners stranded, especially the "eTorque" versions. When something goes wrong with a hybrid drivetrain, it is not a trailside fix. It has to be hauled to a dealer with the appropriate diagnostic gear. I can just imagine the problems I'd have getting a towing service into some of the places I take my Jeep.
Still, I would love a simple, dependable, all electric vehicle. Silent - just the sound of the tires on dirt. 500 mile range and I'd be happy.
To me, out exploring out in the middle of nowhere - a hundred miles from the nearest pavement - dependability is paramount. In all the surveys I've seen, electrical problems are what most people report in any of the newer vehicles...just follow the Jeep forums as I do as a Rubicon owner and its scary how many of these brand spanking new vehicles are leaving their owners stranded, especially the "eTorque" versions. When something goes wrong with a hybrid drivetrain, it is not a trailside fix. It has to be hauled to a dealer with the appropriate diagnostic gear. I can just imagine the problems I'd have getting a towing service into some of the places I take my Jeep.
Still, I would love a simple, dependable, all electric vehicle. Silent - just the sound of the tires on dirt. 500 mile range and I'd be happy.
deserteagle56
Adventurer
It's all about getting the best possible EPA mileage ratings. The less rubber the less rolling resistance. So a solid metal wheel with a tiny strip of rubber on it for traction give the best fuel mileage.
But I'd hate to drive it down a rocky/washboardy dirt road!
T-Willy
Well-known member
I share reliability concerns for remote travel. It's paramount. Note, though, the example of Prius, which over its twenty or so years has proven to be a remarkably reliable platform. That provides at least some measure of hope that we can have similarly reliable hybrid platforms for off-road tourers.
T-Willy
Well-known member
The price is difficult to swallow. Hopefully there will be tax credits to help soften the blow--I haven't looked into that.