Metcalf
Expedition Leader
22" from the ground to the bottom of the rocker guard ( at 22psi )
67 Scout 800 build ideas
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22" from the ground to the bottom of the rocker guard ( at 22psi )
bustedcrawler
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I will try and dig up pictures of my old 66 800... YJ leaves all around with a reverse shackle up front put it at 104.5" wheelbase, and silly flex. On the street a swaybar was a nice addition. IIRC I used a XJ front swaybar. Without it, well, body roll was putting it lightly. Really no need for that much lift and 35s. A basic spring over would give you more than enough to comfortably run 35s.
On my Scout II, stock springs SOA I run 37s for bit before stepping back down to 35s.
Less lift, more sheetmetal work. 5-7" of lift is kinda ridiculous for a 35/38" tire. I run 35s on my flat fender and it is lowered about 1/2" from stock on the suspension
This... Metcalf's flatty is nice and low, made my Scout look like a monster truck next to it, and mine is pretty low for a SOA and 35s scout.
IF I had to do it all over, I would do more sheet tin work and keep the truck lower...
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
98dango
Expedition Leader
Right now my concern for this build is to fallow around this old guy.
He's locked front rear Q78 buck shots and been wheeling over 40 years I call him DAD. Last time out I was more embarrassed than any thing a simple camping trip had my Super Duty on the strap 6 times just to get where we camped when I was a kid.
I had a friend give me some numbers under my scout now.
Frame to ground 6 3/4 inches with 28" tire.
28 to a 35 is 3.5" of lift making 10.25 at frame add 6" spring over I'm at 16" frame not that big. I know a fatty is only like 8" at the frame stock. So ya its a little tall but still less than any thing else I own.
He's locked front rear Q78 buck shots and been wheeling over 40 years I call him DAD. Last time out I was more embarrassed than any thing a simple camping trip had my Super Duty on the strap 6 times just to get where we camped when I was a kid.
I had a friend give me some numbers under my scout now.
Frame to ground 6 3/4 inches with 28" tire.
28 to a 35 is 3.5" of lift making 10.25 at frame add 6" spring over I'm at 16" frame not that big. I know a fatty is only like 8" at the frame stock. So ya its a little tall but still less than any thing else I own.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
wait...what? 6.75" frame to ground?
and.....8" to the frame on a stock flatty? Que? I have like 18" under the frame rail and 16.5" under the transfer case skidplate on my little clown car flat fender thing.
I'm confused with your measurements. :smilies27
98dango
Expedition Leader
I did not take them so no 100% on this but 3 guys came up with in 1/2" of each other. The scout in question from the bottom of the frame to ground is 6.75" so low as crap. That is what i have to work off of.
With that knowledge a 6" spring over lift will set the truck with a 12" frame to ground
With that knowledge a 6" spring over lift will set the truck with a 12" frame to ground
98dango
Expedition Leader
It is flat and I'm also factoring in likely not fully inflated tires with Some ground deflectio if I have a frame height of 20" when done even on 38s I would be very surprised. Scouts do have a taller body so over all may be high but still a solid foot less than my truck nor ramcharger
98dango
Expedition Leader
That idea has crossed my mind many times. Basically the plan right now sits like this.
Pull the body off install drive train axles ect. The floor is junk and some idiot cut up the fire walk. So I can pretty much work that to fit where I put things. Lower the body if we can keeping in mind half of it will be gone. I have to purchase tires leaning to the Q78 swampers. Part of me says put 60s in now you pansy. The other part says you have broken 2 toyota axles in your life both where doing things a 22 year old dose. I do want to keep this narrow for easy daily driver and the trails my dad runs are narrow.
Pull the body off install drive train axles ect. The floor is junk and some idiot cut up the fire walk. So I can pretty much work that to fit where I put things. Lower the body if we can keeping in mind half of it will be gone. I have to purchase tires leaning to the Q78 swampers. Part of me says put 60s in now you pansy. The other part says you have broken 2 toyota axles in your life both where doing things a 22 year old dose. I do want to keep this narrow for easy daily driver and the trails my dad runs are narrow.
Metcalf
Expedition Leader
With a 35" tire I just don't think D60/14bolt stuff is worth it. The ground clearance starts to become an issue under the axle.
It sounds like this is an in-between project. I would just put it together as quick as possible/practical and then move onto building what you REALLY want while you use this to get out on the trail with your dad...
Heck, thinking about that it might just be easier to pick up something easier/quicker to build too ( being devils advocate and all ). There are a lot of used built rigs floating around that can be had for pennies on the dollar.
98dango
Expedition Leader
It is definitely an in between rig. You and I know what I want to build. I am sure I could buy a rig I had planned to just abuse my Ramcharger till I was ready to put this together but the wife jacked that truck. I could buy some thing but half the fun is a project with good friends. The last rig we all built together was go figure a scout. We have all grown gotten married moved away and come back home. So we all felt that a scout was only fitting. My first scout was the go to for recovery in high school and I think this will be the same.