Advice on a temporary solution for Jeep that can painlessly move to camper later

nycgags

New member
I have done some research on ArkPak's and GoalZero's offerings of the "all-in-one" type solutions and walked away a little less than impressed. ArkPak's solution seems to have limited inverter capabilities and I was surprised how little Amp-Hours the GoalZero products offered without having to go to the 1250 model.

Is it recommended that I just build my own with components I like and try to configure/install them nicely in a crate so that when I do upgrade from just Jeep to Jeep+camper/trailer it will be pretty painless?

Are there all-in-one solutions with decent Amp-Hours and decent inverter power at a reasonable price that I should look into?

Immediate requirements would be to just sustain a Dometic CFX fridge (haven't settled on size yet), solar panel(s) with total capacity of 90-120W, and it would be nice to have flexibility with the inverter to have greater than a 300W draw if needed.
 

Bear in NM

Adventurer
nyc,

I'll offer my thoughts, having just built a portable system for myself, primarily around a portable "solar Generator" suitcase. I also have the low end Goal Zero stuff. This is a case where if you decide to build, you really need to love the journey more than the destination. Seriously. I have countless hours here, on youtube and the web, just reading and trying to understand. My installation includes a dual truck battery, my solar suitcase which has two controllers, and 75 amp hours worth of battery. 52 watts of Goal Zero panels, and a 135 watt large panel. I probably have the most of 6 days worth of buying, cutting, crimping, wiring, you name it. A lot of the time delay was finding links to "stuff" from the good folks here, and ordering on Amazon. I am not even gonna add up the costs of everything, as I am sure it has been much higher than just buying an Arkpak or Goal Zero product.

But, it has been fun. And more significantly, if some component goes south, I know now how to troubleshoot it. The main reason I opted out of one of the all in one, is if I had a single component malfunction, I would pretty much have no system, awaiting repair from the maker. Right now my plans are much like yours, set it up for camping out of a vehicle. But I can now solar here at the house, as back up. Looking hard at perhaps a larger camper, and I will be able to use the same system. Or even break out the parts from my box to add to a camper. or now with the bit of knowledge I have, just set up a camper on its own.

I have tooled around the Rockies for the last 25 years in a Jeep YJ. I pretty adept at compacting everything. I now have a full size Chevy (Avalanche), so no need to worry about component size, but if I still had my Jeep, I might have done the same thing. A drugged driver killed my Jeep last summer and about killed me. I would look real hard at adding a second battery to your jeep, as this would allow for your portable to be smaller. If you have not customized your engine compartment already, there is a fair amount of room in there. Put the battery weight in a place that does not intrude on gear space. later, when going to a camper, should be plenty of room for an additional battery. Or wire the camper to the second jeep battery. It's gonna be a tough to buy a portable solution that is small enough to work in a Jeep, is big enough to power everything now, and that is going to be large enough for a camper, later. If you build it, you can pretty much adapt.

Craig
 

nycgags

New member
Thanks Craig - interesting story and sorry to hear about your YJ :'c

I'll just ask a few questions if you don't mind. What inverter size did you go with? Why 2 charge controllers? Any reason 75 Ah for battery instead of 100 or 130? You mention a dual truck battery, I assume your spare battery is installed with your vehicle's OEM battery or are you really running 2 batteries exclusive for this setup? If so the 75 Ah strikes me as a little low for 2 batteries combined, but then again I am new to this.
 

Bear in NM

Adventurer
I too am new at this. The proper way to design a system is usually done by figuring the calcs on your load side, then picking a battery and solar setup to meet those. When I started this, I had no load side yet. So I started in the middle, knowing I would be adding loads and solar. I am in a rental house so no perm. installation for me. And, I have cabin on on a few hundred acres that I use. Plus other camping.

I knew I would need portable, to move around to different scenarios. If you look at the videos of home installations, I basically took everything off the wall, and placed it in a large pelican case. The 70 amp hours was a size that would also fit in the case, and still be portable.The idea being the case would work for camping/cabin, and could also be used at home. It contains a morningstar controller on one side, two battery posts in the middle, and a Morningstar Sunsaver Duo on the other. The duo was chosen as it can charge the case batteries, and whatever second battery I plug in. I have both truck batteries wired to the back of the truck, the starter battery through my 7 pin trailer plug (which is always hot) and my 2nd vehicle battery through a large anderson that may also see a portable winch in the future. The plan being the case can go wherever I need it, and I can currently use/charge any combination of the three batteries I have now. My second truck battery is only 55 ah, so it is small, but has no dedicated load on it.

The case also contains 4 13 watt Goal Zero Panels and their Nomad Sherpa 50, that I could grab those out of the case, and have my backpack solution. Or when lots of folks show up at the ranch, I could loan it out to folks to charge their small devices. So yes, I am small on any one battery for my portable, but combined it should be enough for my current situation. As the case will also serve duty at home as a backup to my house needs, primarily my freezer if the power goes out, I will probably add some decent battery storage here that will sit in a closet. And I know a lot of redundancy here (and cost), but the upside (combined with the upside of learning how to put it all together) gives me no worries about losing one part of the system, and being entirely down.

As to inverters, I have a small samlex pure sine 120 in my case. This is plenty big for portable, for electronics or small power tool recharging, say up at the ranch, where there is no power. Creek and outhouse affair. Here at home, I got a cheapie 1000/2000 from Harbor freight that can run my fridge or freezer (not at the same time). I also have something similar in my truck, that used to be in my Jeep. Other than the home frdge/freezer, not a lot of need for AC in my uses. If your camping requires a lot of AC, then you most certainly need bigger battery/solar/inverter than I have designed.

It is easy if you have your loads, your camper/rv and lots of room. When you are not sure where you are going with all of this solar stuff, it's a lot harder to jump in. And to reiterate, this is all new to me. I probably will have changes as I learn what does and does not work. The good folks here on this site have a lifetime of experiences and posts to help make the decisions easier. I tend to post little, and read a lot. My new Arb fridge is going on its maiden voyage this weekend, and the monsoon season has hit here in northern NM, so I am right off the bat going to have shorter solar hours. We shall see......

Craig
 

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