Aftermarket CV Axle Shafts

RusM

Adventurer
Speaking of CVs and I hope it's not too much off topic - Can someone put up a link to a good writeup of changing CV on Toyota IFS? I'm interested in changing my driver side CV... unsure of which brand to go as well..

Jack truck up, remove tire, pop off dust cover with screwdriver, have someone else stand on the brakes and use your 35mm socket to remove the nut, undo the 4 14mm (??) bolts on the bottom of the ball joint and push out of way, pry axle out of diff with crowbar. Reverse and add locktight to ball joint bolts.

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenance/cv_axle/
 

austintaco

Explorer
I'm bumping this thread because I just finished changing out my driver's side. I wanted to share a few notes from my install to help out others making a decision on what to do.
Truck: 2003 DC 4wd, 107K

Driver's side boot started noticeably leaking last Summer from a slight increase in lift and wear I assume.
Zip tie made it better, but it didn't last.
Off the shelf hose clamps are too wide, but if you combine two smaller diameter, narrower width clamps, they work like a charm. Stopped the leak.

To add some more lube, I used a fine needle type grease gun insert to go inside the boot before I zip tied or used the clamps.

However, then the boot tore most likely due to not being able to move thanks to the clamp. Note to self, you can clamp too tightly on an old CV.

Emergency fix: Bicycle tube cut up and zip tied around cv to prevent dirt and other crap from getting in

I ordered the boot kit after reading about the differences between OEM and an off the shelf unit. However, once I pulled the CV out, I didn't feel like doing all of the extra work to reboot it, so I searched for opinions on which axle is best. This is what I found. I did not want to give up my OEM CV so I didn't want to pay a core charge.
Best: Napa Altrom brand. Apparently, this is an OEM CV, but they don't stock it around here. 5 days to order $125, no core
Better: Napa Maximum Drive brand, new, not a reman, lifetime warranty, three side inner end. $102, no core
or, Advanced, GSP, new, lifetime warranty, three sided inner, $70, no core
Good: Anything that is a Remanufactured OEM with the three sided inner surface. You will have to go around and open alot of boxes to see.

I went with the Advanced model, but for peace of mind, I wish I had waited on an Altrom. If you have the money, order an altrom unit and keep it as your spare for when you need it.

Whatever you do, get one with the three flat sides on the inner shaft. You'll need that surface to tap on to get it in the diff.

You will lose some diff fluid. I replaced mine with a cheaper brand until I know I know the seal is holding. Then, I'll replace with something better.

Take off your skid plates. It will make it much easier to see everything and you will want to wipe down any residual oil to spot a leak later on.

Good luck.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Toyota sells remans for $177, didn't think that was too horrible of price. Hecho en Mexico...(better than China, me thinks ;) )

I just did mine.

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You will lose some diff fluid. I replaced mine with a cheaper brand until I know I know the seal is holding. Then, I'll replace with something better.

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Just jack up the side you're working on higher than the other...though, it is probably best to change the seal and the fluid while you're at it.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
I looked at the Toyota remanufactured before getting the boots, but the cost of sending my core back is what killed it for me. The GSP one from advanced had the dust shield as well.
Others noted that some did not have this piece.

I really want to order in an Altrom one from Napa,just to see it up close.

Link to good discussion on different axles:
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/118912-if-you-have-used-napa-cv-axles-please-reply-2.html

No Toyota dealer in Austin?

My local dealer had to order them in, but only took a day. Wasn't charged shipping.

Wish I knew about the CVJ axles that bat posted, I see they have a silicon boot version.


From the thread you linked, sounds like a couple guys are breaking the Napas...just use their lifetime warranty, and replace them 1-3 years...not necessarily a good axle, just a good warranty???? Or am I reading into it wrong?
 
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austintaco

Explorer
Champion Toyota wanted $198, but I think that was for a new one. At that time, I was ready to just reboot and save some cash. My goal after I decided to put a new one on was to have my OEM as a spare. I'll clean it, reboot it, and put it in a box for my trail spare.

I'll report back on this GSP brand if I have any issues with it

From the different threads on here, YT, TTORA, and toyota-4runner.org, this was my take. If you wheel a lifted rig hard, whether it's locked up front or not, larger tires, you will eventually break a CV whether it be stock or an aftermarket. OEM seem to last the longest. The aftermarket ones with the 3 flat sides on the inner end allow for more articulation than the round ones. NAPA had the best reputation, but there are some that dispute that. NAPA carries two brands of lifetime replacement CV's. Most people talk about their name brand which is this one:http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/CV-Driveshaft-Left-Front-New/_/R-NMD944013_0130781643
I looked at it, and it looked good (not an expert) and it had the features everyone said to look for. However this one: http://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx/CV-Driveshaft-Front-New/_/R-ATM0652432_0257380096 is the one that is mentioned as the actual OEM replacement made by the same company that Toyota gets them from.

I looked up Altrom and they seem to be the way to go to get OEM quality parts in general, but that's just opinions on the net. nothing definitive.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
I looked at the Napa versions researching before I bought the Toyota remans, my OEM's went 280K miles...figured I would stay OEM, the cost wasn't that much more. They weren't clunking or anything, just torn boots... they have so many miles on them, might as well put fresh ones in was my thought. (rebuilt the whole front end too, while I was at it)

That price from Champion seems a little low for remans...should be in the $350-400 range for brand new ones.
 

austintaco

Explorer
I looked at the Napa versions researching before I bought the Toyota remans, my OEM's went 280K miles...figured I would stay OEM, the cost wasn't that much more. They weren't clunking or anything, just torn boots... they have so many miles on them, might as well put fresh ones in was my thought. (rebuilt the whole front end too, while I was at it)

That price from Champion seems a little low for remans...should be in the $350-400 range for brand new ones.

You are probably right. I had the price jotted down in my notes, but it probably was a remanufactured. At advanced, I think my price was $60 before tax because they offer a 10-15%. Only time will tell. If anyone gets an Altrom unit, please post up a picture and thoughts on it's build.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Another thing to consider is the quality of the boot, I have seen aftermarket boots dry rot and split only after 2-3 years out here in AZ, and the OEM's go for 15.
 

austintaco

Explorer
It's funny that you mention the boot. I was thinking about the boots splitting, and wondering if there is a conditioner/lubricant that can make them last a bit longer.
 

Clutch

<---Pass
It's funny that you mention the boot. I was thinking about the boots splitting, and wondering if there is a conditioner/lubricant that can make them last a bit longer.

I dunno. I replaced the steering rack maybe 2-3 years ago...the tie rod boots are already cracking. At the time the truck was 11-12 years old...boots were fine.

You think after all these years there would be a better design...well there is...and it isn't cheap.
 

pray4surf

Explorer
When my CV's started spewing grease, I went with a pair from NAPA also. I don't recall the tulip/triple flat difference - but then again, I wasn't looking for that. Installation went quick and easy, just somewhat of a messy job - glad I wasn't doing it on the trail. The only complaint I have is a noticeable rubber-ry squeak when rolling at slow speeds. Thought maybe this would dissipate with time - it has not...
 

Wainiha

Explorer
I bought a Napa replacement. It is good so far. Now that I have three(one spare-2 stock/1 Napa) I just reboot them and have the thing ready to go.

Remember that Toyota FSM says the LBJ bolts are a nonreusable item.

Torque and loctite those new bolts!
 

Clutch

<---Pass
I bought a Napa replacement. It is good so far. Now that I have three(one spare-2 stock/1 Napa) I just reboot them and have the thing ready to go.

Remember that Toyota FSM says the LBJ bolts are a nonreusable item.

Torque and loctite those new bolts!

For those that never done it before.

This guy has nice tech articles

4X4 Wire
 

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