Allpro expo springs ride quality?

Zac808

Observer
When i get back for my next.deployment i'm gonna be.getting a new leaf pack. Really considering Allpro expos because eventually ill be getting an rtt. My concern is the.ride quality.without weight on the truck. Any info is greatly appreciated.

Sent frum mobul fone soe don't freek out about my speling and grahmar. ;)
 

trump

Adventurist
The last couple of weeks while I was waiting for my new rear bumper to come back from powdercoat. I had all my gear removed from the truck with my 11 leaf Deavers... It was like driving a shopping cart across railroad ties.:Wow1: Punishing! If the Allpro expo spring rates are anything like my Deavers, I'd say you'll want more than just a RTT back there during normal use. Just to give you an idea, I normally keep most of my gear loaded (Spare, 60" HiLift, 2 Full Jerry Cans, and 20 Lbs of CO2... The RTT stays at home.)

Edit: Just took a look at their website, and it looks as if they're building them for the same weight capacity mine are built for. It will be rough unloaded.
 
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bat

Explorer
I think if you can have at least 300lbs in the back they will ride suuuuuuuuper nice. I have a shell,rack and other goodies inside that amount to 300lb+ maybe and it rides great. On my installation I only had maybe 200lbs and it still rode really nice, I like the fact of no overload leaf.
 

tacollie

Glamper
It says the expedition springs are rate at 400-500lbs. of extra weight. I had some Alcans made for 500lbs. extra weight and they rode like crap with less than 250-300lbs. I only had it completely unloaded a couple times to change some things. Each time I bought some sand bags to ease the transition period. It worked fine but it was a temporary solution.
 

bat

Explorer
Yes the expo springs can hold some weight, they are designed to hold like you said 400/500lbs. I am in the shock phase of trying to get my bump stops just right but timbrems keep calling my name. I have a 10" travel shock and with setup my compression
is on the short side.
 

austintaco

Explorer
I think I replied to Pau Hana's thread and mentioned the Timbrens. I still don't have any trail experience with them, but on the road, towing the trailer with some gear in the back and my campershell, my truck drove great and had maybe an inch of sag.

When you order Timbrens, you have to let them know what your application is, and they will probably want you to measure the distance between the frame rail and the leafspring. Based on that measurement, you will get a spacer that is designed to have the actual timbren about 1" from the leafspring unloaded. After you add weight and the leafsprings start to flex, the timbrens will start to make contact with the leafsprings.

The only problem that I have is that I relocated the axle forward to help with rubbing so the timbrens don't center themselves, but they still work.

You will lose some articulation, but you are removing the bumpstop, and the timbren is taking it's place. I'll try and get some pictures of what it looks like when its flexed.


One last thought: the Timbrens were $195 shipped, and I already had the regular All Pro springs with an AAL to help with weight carrying capacity. An engineered set of springs like Deavers or the new All Pros would be less expensive.
 

Zac808

Observer
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One last thought: the Timbrens were $195 shipped, and I already had the regular All Pro springs with an AAL to help with weight carrying capacity. An engineered set of springs like Deavers or the new All Pros would be less expensive.

Thanks for the response. I agree. I cant imagine buying ap expos and.timbrins.

Sent frum mobul fone soe don't freek out about my speling and grahmar. ;)
 

freeze

Adventurer
These All-Pro ExPo springs ride very nice unloaded. They can also sustain a weight of 1,000LBS without touching the bumpstops.

We quite a few people running them and they work great.
 

bobbyinredwood

New member
Like most springs if you don't have the proper weight the spring is probably going to be too stiff. I have the all pro expo leafs and they ride great with all the expo gear in the back, when I take most of that stuff out it becomes a stiff ride with some chatter. Is it horrible? No, it's not too bad unless you have 0 weight, then it's nothing nice. Good luck!
 

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