Any one run a pyro?

boostin

Adventurer
Hmm very interested. I was looking at auto meter ones.

I know many of these trucks drive 100 000s km with out then but I feel like I should be watching these temps
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
Hmm very interested. I was looking at auto meter ones.

I like the programmable alarm feature, stores the peak temperature with time, and controllable display.
Plus they have other matching gauges for temp/pressure/elec with a bunch of features also (and matching of course)
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
Are they decent quality my only concern . Is this an actual brand or like an eBay China ?
Good question, I'll check.
Website is here:
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_21&products_id=139
Manual here:
http://auberins.com/images/Manual/AUBER1813-instruction1-0.pdf

I also like that I can use the same type of display for EGT, Boost, Pressures and Temps, so I can just carry one 'spare' display for all (but not the same unit for all displays).
And the relay contact feature is great for an added 'idiot light' or warning buzz.
 
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boostin

Adventurer
So I am a little confused..does it do more then just egt or do you buy one for each parameter you want to monitor
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
So I am a little confused..does it do more then just egt or do you buy one for each parameter you want to monitor

They will display only one thing at a time, depending on the sensor they are connected to. So an EGT (pyrometer) will ONLY display that.
But you could run an external switch and have one gauge measure truck volt or house volts (same units of measurement)
Or switch between water temp or oil temp (same units of measurement).
But not an external switch to switch between house volts or oil temp (different units of measurement).
You configure the gauge to the units of measurements you want, so no switching the range on the fly. But the display could be pulled, range reset and then display something else.
 
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SkiFreak

Crazy Person
When installing an EGT probe you have two options; pre or post turbo (assuming that you do have a turbo).

Pre turbo will give you the most accurate indication of exhaust temperature, but the values will be very "fluid", as measuring at this location will normally see quick changes in temperature. This is the temperature that is hitting the vanes of the turbo, so it's probably the most useful. However... be very sure that you are buying and installing a high quality probe if doing it pre turbo. If this probe were to fall apart it would likely do some serious damage to the turbo.
Also, if you plan on doing an "in situ" install and this requires drilling a hole in the manifold for the probe fitting, be mindful that any debris that goes into the manifold will also have to go past the turbo vanes. If you cannot remove the manifold to do the install (which is definitely the safest method for doing a pre turbo EGT install) and you want a pre turbo EGT setup, you can drill the hole with the engine running. This in no way ensures that you will stop 100% of the debris getting into the manifold, but the pressure in the manifold will help blow debris out, rather than it simply falling in.

A post turbo EGT install is definitely easier, but you will see significantly different temperatures when read here. The probe should be no further than 6" from the turbo, but the closer the better. Debris is not as much of a concern post turbo, as it only has to go through is the exhaust brake and the rest of the exhaust system, in which there is nothing that can really get damaged. Again, drilling the hole when the engine is running is probably advisable.

A post turbo EGT installation is not as accurate as a pre turbo install, but it can still give you a good indication of how hot things are running.
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
Are they decent quality my only concern . Is this an actual brand or like an eBay China ?

The response I got:
Thank you for contacting us. SYL-1813B is designed in Georgia, US and is manufactured in China.

So pretty much like everything else for sale these days
 

kerry

Expedition Leader
I don't have one but I'd like to have one along with a boost gauge and a fuel pressure gauge. Does anyone use one of those vacuum air filter condition indicators between the filter and the turbo?
 

boostin

Adventurer
Interesting thing I noticed is my bro owns a bunch of kenworth s and the all have the pyro after the turbo
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
Interesting thing I noticed is my bro owns a bunch of kenworth s and the all have the pyro after the turbo

Don't get me wrong here... there is absolutely nothing wrong with positioning the pyro probe after the turbo, you just have to be mindful of the differences between pre and post turbo installations and the temperature readings you will get from both.
There can be up to a 200 degree C temperature differential between the pre and post readings under full throttle or high load conditions.
 

chosen

Observer
SkiFreak is spot on with the 200 deg. C. difference.

I used an autometer gauge in my hilux camper. It was installed post turbo but was very close, right in the dump pipe. I initially mounted it pre installing the turbo to get an idea of the temps the engine was running at, then when I got the turbo I had a good idea of the difference. It gave a very responsive guide as to the load that the engine was under. There were many times that I was heading up the highway into a head wind and I would see the temp start to rise, so just backed it off a little and temp would drop down instantly. Zero rise from the water temp gauge though as they are designed to have some delay in them and also not to move at all within certain temp ranges (at least they were on the hilux).

I would recommend them 100%. Post turbo is fine IMHO. I would disagree with trying to do it with the engine running though, if only due to the heat, CO2 and vibration in that area... again it is just my opinion.
 

SkiFreak

Crazy Person
I would disagree with trying to do it with the engine running though, if only due to the heat, CO2 and vibration in that area... again it is just my opinion.

Drilling a hole through the manifold post turbo is not really an issue, but that is definitely not the case pre turbo. If you cannot remove the manifold, pressurising it is the next best option.
I was not suggesting running the engine up to operating temperature, then drilling the hole. It would only take about 2 minutes to drill and tap a hole, so starting with a cold engine should not result in burning the crap out of yourself. As for the C02... we are only talking about an 8mm hole here, so I don't see that as an issue either. Personally, I would not have an issue with the vibration, but maybe that's just me.
 

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