Anyone traveled Mexico, Central America and South America in a Toyota motorhome?

magentawave

Adventurer
Hi,

I have questions about traveling with a Toyota motorhome please...

1) Have you read about anyone traveling from the USA or Canada deep into Mexico, Central America, and perhaps even South America in a Toyota motorhome?

2) Was it a 2WD or a 4WD?

3) What is your opinion of taking a journey like this in a regular 2WD Toyota motorhome?

Thanks

Steve
 

Christian P.

Expedition Leader
Staff member
Steve

that is a great choice. there are plenty of 2WD traveling around. The only issue is the size going through small town/villages, but the Toyota is not that big.
Also shipping from Panama to Colombia will be a bit more expensive because you won't fit in a container.

If you have one already, I wouldn't hesitate to take it.
 

Christian P.

Expedition Leader
Staff member
Haven

My guess is that he is referring to the Dolphin -like I had a few years ago for Burning Man...BurningMan_2004_036.jpg
 

magentawave

Adventurer
I don't own the vehicle yet but after many hours of research I have decided on buying a Class C Toyota motorhome because of its reliability and better MPG than a typical Class C with a V8. I've owned a lot of cars in my life and the Toyotas were by far the most reliable.

Your top photo is of a Chinook pop-top but I'm going to need something larger. My first choice would be a clean 21' Sunrader (top photo below) because they have the fiberglass coach like the little Chinooks but they are rare so its more likely I'll be getting one with conventional aluminum siding like a Dolphin or similar (bottom photo).

It would be great to find a Sunrader with four wheel drive but they only made about 40 of them. I decided I will get an automatic transmission so I can crawl over washboard dirt roads at slow speed much more easily than a manual trans.

Sunrader.jpg

Dolphin.JPG
 
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haven

Expedition Leader
Thanks for the clarification to what you meant by "Toyota RV." While the old Toyota pickups have an excellent reliability record, I think the Sunrader is just too big and heavy for that chassis. The long rear overhang limits your ability to drive on uneven road surfaces, too.

I'd recommend putting a similar fiberglass camper on a more recent American pickup truck, such as a late 1990s Ford F250 with Powerstroke diesel engine. Here's an example, a 1994 F350 diesel with a Bigfoot 2500 camper, asking price $17,000. This combination is just as fuel efficient as the older Toyota, and really no larger in exterior dimensions (it may be a little taller).
http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1994-Bigfoot-2500-105167003

If the full size Bigfoot is too big for your taste, here's a smaller Northern Lite fiberglass camper. It's designed for midsize trucks like the Dakota and recent Tacoma models, but will fit on full size pickups. Price $6900
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/rvs/3290029521.html

And here's a 1989 Sunrader slide-in camper, ready to be added to the pickup truck of your choice. Price is "make offer - no reserve."
http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/f537/1989-sunrader-29rk-class-c-rv-jackson-ca-2723459.html
 

tanglefoot

ExPoseur
Hi,

I just spotted this thread. We've had an '88 Toyota Odyssey in the family since new. My parents used to pack us up for two months at a time over summer vacation and cross the US, venture around Canada and explore Mexico. We didn't go South of Mexico but we had a lot of great miles. These days it's more of a weekender but it's still pretty frequently used in the warmer months.

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It is a 2wd 22' with the 22R-E, 4-speed manual and full-float rear axle. It's done lots of washboard dirt, a little sandy two-track, Baja dust and Chaco mud. It's been really trouble-free. The engine hasn't required anything beyond fluid and filters. It's only needed a drive shaft, exhaust plumbing and brakes. It's on its original timing chain and clutch. It used to melt a distributor cap now n' again but epoxying the rotor on took care of that.

The chassis is very stout. We've hit some big bumps (topez!!) and haven't broken anything (just bruised some tailbones). It also has respectable ground clearance--more than most cars. The suspension feels very heavy-duty. It has some massive leaf packs in the back that don't deflect much, making for a rough but well-supported ride. I used to think the 4wd ones were cool but I've since changed my mind. They were pretty high-up and clumsy-looking. And I wouldn't want to add the extra weight. I prefer a manual transmission, especially in heavy, underpowered things. If you're off-road with an auto and the tires get in a hole, you can't do any more than hold the pedal down and listen to the transmission slip. With a manual, you can always rev it up a little higher and roast the clutch a little more to get that last bit of oompf.

The cabin has held up pretty well too. All the appliances and systems are original and work pretty well. The only problem areas have been a leaky roof and a little rot in the sidewalls and floor but nothing too troubling yet. My parents really like the floorplan--it has a side-bath so that there's room for a large seating area in the back with large windows all around. They rarely see other campers that they would be interested in.

It is fairly tall and wide but it's managed to fit everywhere we've taken it. It's done a little self-clearancing (the roof rack on a tree and the entrance step on a curb). The wheelbase isn't overly long, so with clever use of the rear overhang, you can usually park in most parking spaces. Fuel economy is certainly nice for its size--16-19 mpg. We used to sleep 6 people in it regularly, but lately it's been no more than five, since my sister and I grew a fair bit.

The Toyota C's are certainly aging but I think with careful selection and pre-trip maintenance/attention, I think one would make a great rambling platform.

For comparison, I have a pop-up truck camper on an '85 Toyota 4wd compact (it was certainly inspired by the Odyssey). While the total weight is a bit lighter, it gets similar fuel economy and has much less space. The rear axle seems much less supportive than the wide dually 1-ton axle under the Odyssey. The Odyssey even corners better, even though it's taller and has roof A/C, likely due to the wide, dually rear axle and mega leaf-spring packs. For going down the road, the Odyssey just feels better than my smaller combo--it just drives and handles nicely...and you can bring a lot more stuff and people!
 
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vicmillon

New member
Hi Steve
I did the same research cause me and my girlfiend are going to do the same trip, from Alaska to our country Chile...
At the end we decided not to buy the toy home, because we want to do more off road... and we want a little bit more power and felt more safe on the road...
I ask many people that are actually doing the americas and i got the same advice from everyone: GROUND CLEARANCE

My choice was a 18 sunrader manual... but now Im going to buy a truck and a pop up camper that suit our needs much better
If you have the chance upgrade the rear suspension with firestone airbags, you are going to gain 3 inches and help that little boy to carry that weight...
Also my diea was to work on the interior and make it lighter... i think you can easy loose 100 kilos... thats going to help a lot..
Im still think the toyota is a very good option, It depends of what you want to do and where you want to go...

Theres a couple from CHile than already cross from Canada to Peru on a Sunrader, they still travelling.. i dont know if they have a website to contact them, but you can find more info of this guys here:

http://www.drivetheamericas.com/node/1276

Good luck!
 

magentawave

Adventurer
Thanks for the info guys. I might be getting a 1984 Toyota 18' Sunrader with 22R and manual Trans. Hopefully I will know in a few days if this deal will happen. It's going to require some work but that's ok cuz Im getting it cheap and plan on probably gutting the interior anyway to make it more suitable for my needs instead of all the ticky tacky stuff they put in them.

Steve
 

magentawave

Adventurer
UPDATE - 11 MONTHS LATER: I decided I wanted a Toyota Sunrader motorhome because it has a fiberglass body and I have lots of experience with fiberglass (I used to glass my own surfboards). So I bought one 21' Sunrader to be a "donor" of spare parts and then bought another Sunrader to be my "keeper". I bought both super cheap but my keeper Sunrader is shorter and lighter at only 18' with the 22R motor with 60,000 original miles and 5 speed manual. I swapped out the hood, front bumper and axles between the two of them because the donor had the 1 ton floating axle. I sold the donor for a little more than I paid for it and I've been busy since preparing the 18'er for my adventure. I completely gutted the interior which meant filling in about 24 holes in the sides and roof. I don't want any leaks anywhere so there will be no holes in the roof and instead of using butyl tape to re-install the 5 window frames I decided to fiberglass the suckers in instead. I'm finally starting to make the wood stringers for the interior that I will epoxy to the sides and ceiling that will serve as connection points (rafters and studs) for cabinets and paneling, etc. I'm going to build a couple lightweight but sturdy aerodynamic and lockable storage boxes for the roof so I can store surfboards, standup surfboards, fishing rod, etc.). I'm also going to de-smog the 22R as described in a thread at the Yotatech forum and replace the Aisian carb with a Weber. After all of that I'll paint it and take off. Its been a heck of a lot of work but I'm hoping to be done by spring. :)
 

mog

Kodiak Buckaroo
UPDATE - 11 MONTHS LATER: I decided I wanted a Toyota Sunrader motorhome because it has a fiberglass body and I have lots of experience with fiberglass (I used to glass my own surfboards). So I bought one 21' Sunrader to be a "donor" of spare parts and then bought another Sunrader to be my "keeper". I bought both super cheap but my keeper Sunrader is shorter and lighter at only 18' with the 22R motor with 60,000 original miles and 5 speed manual. I swapped out the hood, front bumper and axles between the two of them because the donor had the 1 ton floating axle. I sold the donor for a little more than I paid for it and I've been busy since preparing the 18'er for my adventure. I completely gutted the interior which meant filling in about 24 holes in the sides and roof. I don't want any leaks anywhere so there will be no holes in the roof and instead of using butyl tape to re-install the 5 window frames I decided to fiberglass the suckers in instead. I'm finally starting to make the wood stringers for the interior that I will epoxy to the sides and ceiling that will serve as connection points (rafters and studs) for cabinets and paneling, etc. I'm going to build a couple lightweight but sturdy aerodynamic and lockable storage boxes for the roof so I can store surfboards, standup surfboards, fishing rod, etc.). I'm also going to de-smog the 22R as described in a thread at the Yotatech forum and replace the Aisian carb with a Weber. After all of that I'll paint it and take off. Its been a heck of a lot of work but I'm hoping to be done by spring. :)
Sounds very interesting.
I hope you do a build thread, or at least post some progress photos and tips/hints.
There is a beautiful 4x4 turbo Sunrader on eBay right now:
Sunrader on eBay
 

PaulDavidson

New member
How is the toyoterhome doing on the Pan Am?

Thanks for posting all this.

I own an 81' Toyota Dolphin and have though I should get a Unimog for the Pan America as I've gotten my current RV stuck on dirt roads so many times on Western road trips and I love going off road.

I'm itching to go, if I get remote work, I'll just take off in the RV I have. My main concern is going to be my low rear overhang and the wooden construction shaking itself apart.

Old Toyota Trucks are going to be easy and cheap to repair in the Americas; although I don't know how wise it is to put much money into something that only cost $4K to begin with.

I'd love to hear how it's all turning out!
 

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