Artic oven tents question for ya

[CaptainPicardX]

I know your weather. I'm in north Georgia but was in south Florida for 20 years. Just like Louisiana but without the good music.
There was always rain. Always wet canvas. So that means you set up your tent, camp, go home, set up your tent again to dry out.

I'm just trying to help you think it through. It's really nice having a tent that's easy/fast to set up.

Are you reffering to mold? I didnt think that was gonna be an issue.. Everytime Ive been rained on, I usually wait till the rain is gonne for hours before I had home.

Also, the tent site, says the canvas has been treated with something for anti mold.

I hope thats not gonna be a big issue..

If I pack up and the tent is not completely dry.. the whole thing turns moldy, and I just threw away $1500.. .I hope to hell thats not the case

Is there something inherent to canvas that you are reffering to? LIke it takes a hell of a lot longer to dry compared to like a Eureka tent? Whatever they are made of Nylon? or something

 

[High Country]

I like the Arctic Oven's for their design intent; cold nasty weather. With a stove inside you could live all winter in one.... But, IMHO they are large and bulky and heavy and probably overkill for most car camping and L48 usage.
I've been in their Anchorage shop many times. Great folks and good company.

With that said, for base camps that are not below zero, I like the Alaska Guide Tents. I have used them with great success in Alaska in all types of weather.
The Original Here:
http://bit.ly/2skw1aS

The New Model Here:
http://bit.ly/2J5IwxJ

Hard to beat for a durable base camp tent, especially in the L48.

I also have spent quite a bit of time in this tent (mine is the older version in Yellow -- See attached pic):
http://bit.ly/2H85UIV

Great for kids and love the large vestibules!
It is basically a 10x14 tent. I bought a 10 x 14 tarp for my ground cover and its works perfectly. The back end vestibule is large enough I can stash a bucket toilet back there for evening releases...

 

[High Country]

As for mold issues, I always set mine up in the garage after a trip. Cleaned off the floor, set up the tent; and then turned some fans on. The next day I took a damp cloth and wiped the tent down where ever I could see dirt, dead bugs, etc. Then turned the fans back on and let it dry some more. Takes about 2 days to do it they way I did it. I tried the living room once, but my wife preferred it when I used the garage. Especially with the large tents!

 

[CaptainPicardX]

As for mold issues, I always set mine up in the garage after a trip. Cleaned off the floor, set up the tent; and then turned some fans on. The next day I took a damp cloth and wiped the tent down where ever I could see dirt, dead bugs, etc. Then turned the fans back on and let it dry some more. Takes about 2 days to do it they way I did it. I tried the living room once, but my wife preferred it when I used the garage. Especially with the large tents!

Thanks for the recomendations.. That yellow tent looked like that Northface ve25.. Ive already looked at those..dont like the colors

 

[High Country]

Thanks for the recomendations.. That yellow tent looked like that Northface ve25.. Ive already looked at those..dont like the colors

If you look a the last link I provided (provided below as well) you can see that Cabela's changed the color on my tent to a Greenish blue and Gray mix with their most recent update to the tent.
http://bit.ly/2H85UIV
Its an 8 man tent, huge spacious ceiling. The North Face ve25 is a much smaller tent, although similar in appearance.

To address your Arctic Oven questions specifically:
Above 50 degrees the Arctic Oven is going to be warmer than the Cabela's tents I linked. Most people have to open them up for air if it is warmer than 50 or 60. Have you seen one in person? They are a THICK, burly material...
I think the UV rays should not be to big of an issue with the Arctic Oven, its high end material
I get a floor saver/footprint, or make one, for all the tents I use. It makes the tent last longer, and makes sense as to why they would recommend it.
The stove flap can be sealed up for when you are not using the stove.

Alaska Tarp & Tent seems to be a respected company in Anchorage. Of all the people I know who own them or have spent time in them (a lot of people just rent them/borrow them) I have not heard of any warranty issues.
You can read 3 reviews here:
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/alaska-tent-tarp-arctic-oven-10-with-vestibule
Another Review Here:
http://www.alaskaoutdoorssupersite.com/tent-reviews/arctic-oven-tent

 

[CaptainPicardX]

If you look a the last link I provided (provided below as well) you can see that Cabela's changed the color on my tent to a Greenish blue and Gray mix with their most recent update to the tent.
http://bit.ly/2H85UIV
Its an 8 man tent, huge spacious ceiling. The North Face ve25 is a much smaller tent, although similar in appearance.

To address your Arctic Oven questions specifically:
Above 50 degrees the Arctic Oven is going to be warmer than the Cabela's tents I linked. Most people have to open them up for air if it is warmer than 50 or 60. Have you seen one in person? They are a THICK, burly material...
I think the UV rays should not be to big of an issue with the Arctic Oven, its high end material
I get a floor saver/footprint, or make one, for all the tents I use. It makes the tent last longer, and makes sense as to why they would recommend it.
The stove flap can be sealed up for when you are not using the stove.

Alaska Tarp & Tent seems to be a respected company in Anchorage. Of all the people I know who own them or have spent time in them (a lot of people just rent them/borrow them) I have not heard of any warranty issues.
You can read 3 reviews here:
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/alaska-tent-tarp-arctic-oven-10-with-vestibule
Another Review Here:
http://www.alaskaoutdoorssupersite.com/tent-reviews/arctic-oven-tent

Like I said I dont even spend that much time in the tent if its sunny out. Just when its raining and when I go to sleep. Offcourse I would open the door if it gets too hot and leaven the bug net on. I think they come with one.

After doing a good bit of research on that Canvas tent I almost like them equally now.. and the canvas tent is cheaper.

Im just slightly worried about the mold issue as some have mentioned.. I dont feel like dealing with that.. if the canvas will take a lot longer to dry out then the rain fly on the artic oven.

And going back to the temperature thingy.. like I mentioned in my first post.. down here for me at least.. if it gets anything close to 40 degrees, I will want a heater in my tent.. I am not freezing my ass off in a sleeping bag.. The last time I camped.. it was something like that.. and I had a good sleeping bag.. but my face was cold, so I hardly got any sleep..

Im still sorta tied between those two tents now.. Ive read everything I could on the artic ovens.. but unfortunately saw very little of people using them in hotter temps..

Id really rather get Ao, esp since that canvas tent doesnt seem to have any guide line tie outs.. just the ones near the tent.. Ao has both tie down on the vapex part, and the rain fly.. I like that a lot..

But if its gonna be 100 degrees in it at night, then Id rather go with the Campmore tent.. I like the heavy duty zippers, and heavy duty bug net..

Ive looked at everything from nortface to eureka, cabelas,etc.. really not feeling any of them.. regardless of the model

I think Im either gonna get teh Ao 10 w vestibule, or the Canvas tent..

Besides.. as far as the temps.. I dont have to.. nor do I usually, go camping in the dead of summer.. I can go november to april when its cold down here.. plus i like these months cause there are no kids around to annoy me

 

[perterra]

Im in Louisiana.. not HImalayas.. We never get wind here.. I wish we did.. its too damn humid.. When we do its a huricane

Im not worried about pitching it in the rain.. if its downpouring then I wont go camping.. or if I get caught off guard.. I just wait in the car..

I pitch a tent in the morning when the weather is nice, then leave it up all day.. I dont wait till the last minute

I want something that is tall, and durable.. 70 mph winds if need be.. All the thin walled tents that Ive seen, dont seem very durable. I have looked at the Hilleberg ones but cant stand the design

Thanks you for the replies.. if anyone else has experience ..feel free to chime in

Oh, I thought from the post you wanted 70 mph wind protection.

 

[perterra]

Are you reffering to mold? I didnt think that was gonna be an issue.. Everytime Ive been rained on, I usually wait till the rain is gonne for hours before I had home.

Also, the tent site, says the canvas has been treated with something for anti mold.

I hope thats not gonna be a big issue..

If I pack up and the tent is not completely dry.. the whole thing turns moldy, and I just threw away $1500.. .I hope to hell thats not the case

Is there something inherent to canvas that you are reffering to? LIke it takes a hell of a lot longer to dry compared to like a Eureka tent? Whatever they are made of Nylon? or something

If you pack one up damp, it's gonna mold, regardless of canvas, nylon, sun forager or sunbrella material. I have never seen one that didnt, and that includes pop up tent trailers.

 

[High Country]

I'd call Alaska Tent and Tarp and speak with them. They sell canvas tents, have some new designs I have not seen before, and are the makers of the Arctic Oven. They can walk you through your questions. They might even be able to point you to a place that would let you rent one to try it out.
http://www.alaskatent.com/
You can reach them at (907) 562-2293

 

[Hilldweller]

If you pack one up damp, it's gonna mold, regardless of canvas, nylon, sun forager or sunbrella material. I have never seen one that didnt, and that includes pop up tent trailers.

This.

I had a method I used for wet ---- I'd erect the "Big Top", a huge 20' x 20' tarp that was gusseted to fit over my RTT-type tent perfectly (thank you, Mr Conqueror), an then open the tent under that. But, even with that, and tearing it down under the Big Top, I'd still need to wipe down the tent walls with a canvas-friendly cleaner, dry them, and then open it up a bit in the garage when I got home. And the Big Top had to be hung along the rafters in the garage from bungee cords. Fans for 3 days.

Unless you're in an arid region, canvas is marriage. You can either work on it dutifully or pay the consequences of failure.

 

[CaptainPicardX]

Thank you for all the responses. If anyone else has anything else to add feel free.