Looking to replace my shock they are the originals and have 140,000 on them . On my gen one I used they gas adjust but was thinking of going to the Bilstein's on the gen 3 . I'm a road trip fire road type of guy and was wondering if double the price of the Bilstein's are worth it? I'm thinking toasty maybe has run both and has some advice. I'm also thinking of going with a.d.d. springs later as mine seem the be sagging.
Bilstein 4600 vs kyb gas adjust gen 3
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IncorpoRatedX
Explorer
The KYB's fade out too fast when traveling on Forest roads. The bilsteins will keep better ride quality for longer. They're beefier/better shocks all around and designed for racing. Ive worked closely with the guy that originally designed the 36 and 46mm Universal Motorsport struts for Bilstein while he worked there. He's a mitsu guy too but into the cars. He was instrumental in shock selection for the Montero's.
JohnnyBfromPeoria
I'm Getting Around To It
I've never owned a Gen 3, but with all of my Gen 1's and 2's on KYB Gas-A-Just, I've beat the snot out of my trucks on washboard dirt roads (probably one of the more punishing things to do to them), forest roads at high speeds and everything else I had the guts to attempt. I've not noticed any fade from the KYB's I've had.
KYB line-up:
Excel-G = Basically stock replacement
Gas-A-Just = Enhanced fade resistance, more control, firmer ride
MonoMax = Heavy duty, highly loaded vehicle, punishment in a box. I don't like them on Jorge's '99.
I've never had any vehicle with Bilsteins, but I've heard nothing but good things about them.
And friends don't let friends use Monroe shocks.
John B.
KYB line-up:
Excel-G = Basically stock replacement
Gas-A-Just = Enhanced fade resistance, more control, firmer ride
MonoMax = Heavy duty, highly loaded vehicle, punishment in a box. I don't like them on Jorge's '99.
I've never had any vehicle with Bilsteins, but I've heard nothing but good things about them.
And friends don't let friends use Monroe shocks.
John B.
Well Bilsteins it is then. Thanks
'round n' back again
Explorer
what became of your gen 1?
ive got gas adj's sitting on the shelf ready to go in . but now i dither. i want koni, but A.D.D. is making big noise about bilstein. ive used all three on cars. but cannot compare to suv type rigs.
what i really want??? coil overs on front and eliminate torsion bar
hint, hint, fellers there in AZ.
ive got gas adj's sitting on the shelf ready to go in . but now i dither. i want koni, but A.D.D. is making big noise about bilstein. ive used all three on cars. but cannot compare to suv type rigs.
what i really want??? coil overs on front and eliminate torsion bar
hint, hint, fellers there in AZ.
plh
Explorer
Thanks, Won't be until March when I'm back from Asia. Only interested in the rear pair.
My gen 1 is sitting in the driveway looking awesome just waiting for someone to come pay me and pick it up. The funny thing about monteros... no one wants them 😉
'round n' back again
Explorer
it is peculiar that they are so unloved. but if anecdotal exam of craigslist posts counts for anything, of all models in our area the gen 1 and 2.5 disappear quickly relative to the gen 2, gen3.
in my case i had a 91 toy pickup , arb locked front rear and sideways a real charmer. i had knocked the engine out of it. took a year to sell. i remember asking 1500
it seems that unless its easily financeable or readily collectable and cheap it will sit.
my dear old daddy has a 57 chev called the black mamba. a car that did generate modest fame. it a paxton poster car, sema shows etc. he lavished- im not kidding here, 200K on this machine. best he could get at auction? 85K
f-ing cars, moronic owners.
that mamba has my recaros in it, wonder if i ever get them back?? hehe
in my case i had a 91 toy pickup , arb locked front rear and sideways a real charmer. i had knocked the engine out of it. took a year to sell. i remember asking 1500
it seems that unless its easily financeable or readily collectable and cheap it will sit.
my dear old daddy has a 57 chev called the black mamba. a car that did generate modest fame. it a paxton poster car, sema shows etc. he lavished- im not kidding here, 200K on this machine. best he could get at auction? 85K
f-ing cars, moronic owners.
that mamba has my recaros in it, wonder if i ever get them back?? hehe
All true. It's funny the interest I have had. One guy wants to cut it up and build a camper on it. I had two separate hipster girls want it but once I explained it need a large repair ( even though the ad clearly stated it) they were out. I had one guy who wanted to send me half the cash then I send him the title then he sends me the rest of my money and some shipping company will take the truck. I just want some one to show up with reasonable offer and take it away. I have had the thought of learning to do head gasket my self and keeping it.
coffeegoat
Adventurer
Well.. I'll tell you this, after doing a head gasket on an 1984 nissan pickup, and more recently my 2001 Montero, as long as you're not in a hurry it's a fantastic way to learn new things. I got way more out of the experience than a truck with a refreshed engine. Sure it was a bunch of work, dirty hands, bruised knuckles, and a fair bit of creative swearing, but in the end I know the inside of the truck far better than I did before, picked up some new skills, and had lots of time for quiet contemplation of all things internal combustion. It was one of those character building experiences of doing something hard for the sake of doing something hard.
I think everybody has those items that they're scared to do because they're hard - could be having a kid, going hunting, public speaking, starting a business, rebuilding an engine, learning to bake. But in my experience everything that is truly awesome is also really hard. If we stay in our comfort zone we don't grow, as an engineer who works all day on a computer I find it pretty vital to be in the lab/shop doing stuff with my hands otherwise I don't stay grounded in reality. Doing stuff that's hard, and not in your comfort zone means you learn respect for people who are different than you, I could never wrench for a living - but people that do it are often very talented, intelligent and they do important work. It's easy to figure people that aren't like you are lame, lazy, and not grounded in "the important stuff," but growing up in a place very different than I am now, and doing a variety of work over the years, I've noticed we're more alike than different.
Anyways, perhaps a bit too philosophical for a discussion of which shock (I prefer the bilsteins because I already bought them:smiley_drive
but important nonetheless...
I think everybody has those items that they're scared to do because they're hard - could be having a kid, going hunting, public speaking, starting a business, rebuilding an engine, learning to bake. But in my experience everything that is truly awesome is also really hard. If we stay in our comfort zone we don't grow, as an engineer who works all day on a computer I find it pretty vital to be in the lab/shop doing stuff with my hands otherwise I don't stay grounded in reality. Doing stuff that's hard, and not in your comfort zone means you learn respect for people who are different than you, I could never wrench for a living - but people that do it are often very talented, intelligent and they do important work. It's easy to figure people that aren't like you are lame, lazy, and not grounded in "the important stuff," but growing up in a place very different than I am now, and doing a variety of work over the years, I've noticed we're more alike than different.
Anyways, perhaps a bit too philosophical for a discussion of which shock (I prefer the bilsteins because I already bought them:smiley_drive
but important nonetheless...