Tucson T4R
Expedition Leader
That is because it's Glamping not camping. :sombrero:
Birth of My Kimberley Karavan
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That is because it's Glamping not camping. :sombrero:
Really enjoy the thread Brad. I stumbled on "Kimberley Kampers" by accident Googling "Off-Road travel trailers". Almost all the hit's were from Australia. It's amazing how there is no one providing such options in North America. Doesn't matter much though seeing as to my great surprise Kimberley ships legal units to the USA, without value added tax and with (as of this writing) a great exchange rate.
This picture is incredible!
My dream to camp like that with full amenities.
So, I am interested in the Kimberley Kruiser T3. This is their full size off-road travel trailer. I've been speaking to Bruce about the changes that need top be made for "USA" use.
I honestly do not understand why there aren't more of the KK's in the US? They seem like high quality units that would fill a decent size niche. Right now my wife is more interested in Airstreams. She says more room, easier to tow, would prefer the "easier" camping in RV parks/camgrounds with all the stuff to do and close to activities.
I of course would be more interested in the off-the beaten path camping like you. Down by rivers, edge of canyons etc that would take some off-roading to get to. This trailer will be for long term camping.
I understand some systems would need to be changed. Like the 220v to 110v. A different power inverter. An A/C system installed over here as I guess the AUS system uses different refrigerant that isn't allowed here. A different cell-phone boost/antenna for our "4G/LTE". A different satellite dish for our Northern Hemisphere setup. I really like the autonomy provided by the KK. Huge lithium battery banks. Diesel heat, cooking. Compost toilet available. Large water tanks. Washing machine.
How has your KK held up? The KK with it's fiberglass construction should be more worry free and better insulated than an Airstream. What stinks about an Airstream is I do like the interiors, but they are very low and I'd imagine they are probably one of the worst for off-pavement work.
I do work on the internet while on the move. Do you use internet at all while traveling? In a lot of these remote locations, huge problems getting internet connection? Any thoughts on this type of caravan and travel to help convince the wife?
This picture is incredible!
My dream to camp like that with full amenities.
So, I am interested in the Kimberley Kruiser T3. This is their full size off-road travel trailer. I've been speaking to Bruce about the changes that need top be made for "USA" use.
I honestly do not understand why there aren't more of the KK's in the US? They seem like high quality units that would fill a decent size niche. Right now my wife is more interested in Airstreams. She says more room, easier to tow, would prefer the "easier" camping in RV parks/camgrounds with all the stuff to do and close to activities.
I of course would be more interested in the off-the beaten path camping like you. Down by rivers, edge of canyons etc that would take some off-roading to get to. This trailer will be for long term camping.
I understand some systems would need to be changed. Like the 220v to 110v. A different power inverter. An A/C system installed over here as I guess the AUS system uses different refrigerant that isn't allowed here. A different cell-phone boost/antenna for our "4G/LTE". A different satellite dish for our Northern Hemisphere setup. I really like the autonomy provided by the KK. Huge lithium battery banks. Diesel heat, cooking. Compost toilet available. Large water tanks. Washing machine.
How has your KK held up? The KK with it's fiberglass construction should be more worry free and better insulated than an Airstream. What stinks about an Airstream is I do like the interiors, but they are very low and I'd imagine they are probably one of the worst for off-pavement work.
I do work on the internet while on the move. Do you use internet at all while traveling? In a lot of these remote locations, huge problems getting internet connection? Any thoughts on this type of caravan and travel to help convince the wife?
Jwestpro
Explorer
Right now my wife is more interested in Airstreams. She says more room, easier to tow, would prefer the "easier" camping in RV parks/camgrounds with all the stuff to do and close to activities.
I of course would be more interested in the off-the beaten path camping like you. Down by rivers, edge of canyons etc that would take some off-roading to get to. This trailer will be for long term camping.
I understand some systems would need to be changed. Like the 220v to 110v. A different power inverter. An A/C system installed over here as I guess the AUS system uses different refrigerant that isn't allowed here. A different cell-phone boost/antenna for our "4G/LTE". A different satellite dish for our Northern Hemisphere setup. I really like the autonomy provided by the KK. Huge lithium battery banks. Diesel heat, cooking. Compost toilet available. Large water tanks. Washing machine.
How has your KK held up? The KK with it's fiberglass construction should be more worry free and better insulated than an Airstream. What stinks about an Airstream is I do like the interiors, but they are very low and I'd imagine they are probably one of the worst for off-pavement work.
I do work on the internet while on the move. Do you use internet at all while traveling? In a lot of these remote locations, huge problems getting internet connection? Any thoughts on this type of caravan and travel to help convince the wife?
Your wife has an incorrect idea about the towing. Exactly how does a heavier and longer Airstream become "easier to tow". The KK T3 is FAR easier simply due to some very basic reasons:
1- It weighs considerably less than an equal length Airstream and it's weight is actually balanced more evenly which reduces the hitch weight. Both of these aspects make it easier to tow and by a lighter vehicle. For example, a 25' Airstream, maybe 28', pushes the limits for most US suv's unless you're using a domestic "full size" based suv like a Ford Excursion or Yukon XL, basically "trucks" with suv bodies.
2-the suspension is much more sophisticated which helps with towing stability. The T3 can be optioned with an air suspension AND a lowering/raising feature for low/stability on highway and high/clearance for forest roads and light "trails" like you see in this thread.
3-the aerodynamics exceed the Airsteam
For off grid internet access, you either need to get over it or just use a "hot spot" with a carrier that has coverage in more remote areas.
As for shore power, I was under the impression that the KK would automatically put in the proper 110v based systems before shipping to a country where it's obvious 220v isn't going to work at all.
I have no idea why this would be important to someone who dreams of camping in that photo above "A different satellite dish for our Northern Hemisphere setup.". What a waste of $ on the KK custom order and a waste of time in general
On space, the T3 is 21' and yes, definitely smaller inside than some Airstreams but not smaller or less functional that a 19' so unless you plan on bigger, like at least 25', the KK T3 is pretty similar.
The AUD is about 70% of the USD right now so that's 5% cheaper than 6 months ago or $5000 on a $100k order.
To me the biggest trade off is when you consider a longer Airstream, 25+ which provides a true separate bedroom, then short hallway with toilet/shower along it, then the galley and seating area. This is nice, no doubt about it, but it's also heavy and you cannot take it anywhere near a place like in that photo. There are even many actual campgrounds where anything more than 20' or so becomes a limiting problem.
The Single axle is nice too because you get the more maneuverable size but still really nice space. The outside cooking is pretty slick too on the slide-out for the single or tandem.
Tucson T4R
Expedition Leader
Zyane,
Thanks. You can see the photos for most of my other trips in the camping galleries on my website: bgarland.smugmug.com
The reliability for me has been great. The only major problem I have had was the detonated wheel I had earlier this year. Go with either steel wheels or use a known good brand aluminum wheel like the Toyota ones I switched to.
KK does a great job setting up their trailer for the US 110VAC power. They pre-wire for what ever options you want like microwave or A/C and you just source those here in the US and install them. It was pretty easy.
If you want the full media set up you can have them install everything but the TV. Their TVs do not work in the US. I picked up a marine version of a Jenson TV that was made for high vibration environments and it is working out very well.
When my wife is with me, she likes to mix up remote off the grid camping with stops for a night in a campground. She does not like the small shower area over the toilet in the Karavan. We have not used the inside shower. I use the outside shower that attaches off the rear of the trailer. Privacy is not usually a problem in most of my camps. The larger Kruiser probably has much more usable inside shower set up.
I recommend going with the lithium battery option. It is a tad expensive but it was the best upgrade I ever did. I can even run the microwave off the batteries through the inverter which draws about 90 amps and my battery pack handles it perfectly.
I don't worry about having an internet connection when out in remote areas. If you wanted to work from areas without strong cell signals I would guess you would need a satellite connection. I haven't looked into this.
Bottom line is, I am very happy with my set up and plan to keep enjoying it for years to come. Heading out next week for another week long trip. After I retire next April I will have time for longer adventures.
Send me a PM if you want to talk.
Thanks. You can see the photos for most of my other trips in the camping galleries on my website: bgarland.smugmug.com
The reliability for me has been great. The only major problem I have had was the detonated wheel I had earlier this year. Go with either steel wheels or use a known good brand aluminum wheel like the Toyota ones I switched to.
KK does a great job setting up their trailer for the US 110VAC power. They pre-wire for what ever options you want like microwave or A/C and you just source those here in the US and install them. It was pretty easy.
If you want the full media set up you can have them install everything but the TV. Their TVs do not work in the US. I picked up a marine version of a Jenson TV that was made for high vibration environments and it is working out very well.
When my wife is with me, she likes to mix up remote off the grid camping with stops for a night in a campground. She does not like the small shower area over the toilet in the Karavan. We have not used the inside shower. I use the outside shower that attaches off the rear of the trailer. Privacy is not usually a problem in most of my camps. The larger Kruiser probably has much more usable inside shower set up.
I recommend going with the lithium battery option. It is a tad expensive but it was the best upgrade I ever did. I can even run the microwave off the batteries through the inverter which draws about 90 amps and my battery pack handles it perfectly.
I don't worry about having an internet connection when out in remote areas. If you wanted to work from areas without strong cell signals I would guess you would need a satellite connection. I haven't looked into this.
Bottom line is, I am very happy with my set up and plan to keep enjoying it for years to come. Heading out next week for another week long trip. After I retire next April I will have time for longer adventures.
Send me a PM if you want to talk.
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Romer
Adventurer
Awesome Brad, glad to hear its holding up well. Thinking hard about this. Love my Kimberley Kamper and the build quality. Still looks like new. But upgrading to another Kimberley with a few more comforts would be nice. I may even get the wife to join me with the bathroom and inside Kitchen.
And thanks for the PM(s) answering my questions
And thanks for the PM(s) answering my questions
Tucson T4R
Expedition Leader
Anytime Ken. The current exchange rate gives us a serious discount. If you ever considered purchasing one, now is definitely the time. I would be amazed if the exchange rate get significantly better than it is now.
The added amenities are nice but the biggest thing I like about the karavan over the Kamper is having hardwalls when the weather gets rough. It provides a perfect shelter with no flapping canvas.
Every Miles A Memory
Expedition Leader
I LOVE everything Australian as they're built to last
Tucson T4R
Expedition Leader
So true Pat. I still don't get why a few US companies don't build off road quality like the Ausies do.
There is a market for them here.
There is a market for them here.
Romer
Adventurer
Looks like there will be 4. Just finished working the deal with Bruce on a new Karavan. My Kimberley Kamper is for sale
Funny thing is It will be clearing customs about the same time as I fly to Australia for Vacation. Will have to pick it up when I get back. Since Bruce and the factory are there in Sydney, I can visit and see where it was built
Funny thing is It will be clearing customs about the same time as I fly to Australia for Vacation. Will have to pick it up when I get back. Since Bruce and the factory are there in Sydney, I can visit and see where it was built
Tucson T4R
Expedition Leader
Looks like there will be 4. Just finished working the deal with Bruce on a new Karavan. My Kimberley Kamper is for sale
Funny thing is It will be clearing customs about the same time as I fly to Australia for Vacation. Will have to pick it up when I get back. Since Bruce and the factory are there in Sydney, I can visit and see where it was built
Awesome Ken! We will have to find an opportunity to camp together sometime.
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Every Miles A Memory
Expedition Leader
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Tucson T4R
Expedition Leader
Looks like there will be 4. Just finished working the deal with Bruce on a new Karavan. My Kimberley Kamper is for sale
Funny thing is It will be clearing customs about the same time as I fly to Australia for Vacation. Will have to pick it up when I get back. Since Bruce and the factory are there in Sydney, I can visit and see where it was built
Hi Ken,
I just checked the exchange rate and today it is saying the US dollar = 1.40 Ausie dollars. That would knock a price tag of $75K all the way down to $45K. Did you get that exchange rate on your purchase? That is an awesome discount!:Wow1::Wow1:
Looks like there will be 4. Just finished working the deal with Bruce on a new Karavan. My Kimberley Kamper is for sale
Funny thing is It will be clearing customs about the same time as I fly to Australia for Vacation. Will have to pick it up when I get back. Since Bruce and the factory are there in Sydney, I can visit and see where it was built
Which Kimberley unit did you go with?
Romer
Adventurer
The Caravan Classic
I added a few things like the Heater, Went with the full awning like Brad has, the bunk setup so you can sleep 4, inside shower, magnetic curtains, drawbar extension, anti-sway bar, reading lights and rims to match my 100 series. The limited had a few more options I really wanted like Lithium batteries, Airbag suspension and some other toys, but that would have been another $10-12K and I figured I could add some of those as time goes on. Pretty excited.
I did get the exchange rate, all together costing me $50K