Bubbles version 2.0: DONE!

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
This is a build thread I'm starting on our little homebuilt teardrop trailer, nicknamed "bubbles" (thanks to some of the good folks here on ExPo for the name!)

[EDITED 06/24/13 to add "DONE" ;) ]

Some of you have probably seen my other posts, but for the benefit of those who might not, I'll start at the beginning:

Part 1: The beginning:

Back in January of 2012, my wife and I were talking about what we wanted to accomplish in the upcoming year, what we wanted to do differently, etc. I mentioned that I'd like us to go camping together. We had last "camped out" together at a KOA, staying in a cabin, in 2009. And the last time we went camping at a primitive campsite was in 2007 using the truck I owned then, a 2004 Tacoma.

I had continued to camp after 2009 but Liz didn't come with me because she didn't really feel comfortable sleeping in the small confines of the bed of my truck. And when I sold the truck and got a 4runner in the Summer of 2009, that made camping for two even more restricted (although it works fine for one person.)

The real issue is that at our age (50) we don't really like sleeping on the ground in a tent, and we don't need/want a big camper.

So we started exploring ways that we might be able to camp out. We thought about getting a tent trailer, but the ones that were within our sub-$2000 budget were in pretty bad shape. Also we wondered about how unpleasant it might be to set up/take down in the middle of a rainstorm or heavy wind, and finally there was the issue of wind causing the sides of the tent to flap and generally make noise.

So then Liz suggested a Teardrop Trailer. I had seen pictures of teardrops but didn't know much about them. Liz, however, knew someone at a previous job who was very much into teardrops.

I started scanning Craigslist and we immediately found a couple of factory built trailers that were tow-able, but needed a little interior TLC from the pics, and both were in our budget. Unfortunately, they were also located several hundred miles away in New Mexico.

But then, by chance, I just happened to see a listing for a home built teardrop in Glenwood Springs, CO, just 3 hours away. Although I was somewhat skeptical of getting someone else's home built, the builder sent us links to YouTube videos he'd posted of the build. So we thought it looked decent. His price was a tad high, at $1800, but we also noticed he had been listing it since November, so we figured we could dicker him down a bit.

On a weekend in mid-January, we loaded up the 4runner and headed up the mountains to Glenwood. We met with the builder, a very nice young guy who is an amazing woodcraftsman. He builds electric guitars, gorgeous ones, and had several half-finished guitars on the wall of his shop. We checked out the Trailer and Liz was immediately smitten - the trailer was an absolutely gorgeous work of art.

I was mainly interested in making sure it was structurally sound, and it certainly appeared to be. So we negotiated a bit and finally settled on a price of $1450, which we thought was fair. Got her hooked up to my 4runner and headed down the mountain.

Here she is at a rest area off of I-70.

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We got her home and started figuring out how we were going to use her.

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We were impressed by a lot of things: The workmanship that was put into the wood work, the fact that it had nice amenities like an air conditioner and a music system we could attach an iPod to, an exterior (shore) power connection, and so on.

After we named her "Bubbles", Liz and I immediately set out to decorating it, and since Liz is an avid fly fisher, she went with a "fish" theme. We also wanted lots of colors and textures in it, to make it fun inside and out.

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We took 6 trips with Bubbles in 2012, and I won't re-iterate them since I already posted other threads on those subjects.

However, as much fun as Bubbles was, we came to the realization that she was badly in need of some modification and repair.

The specific problems were:

1. Watertightness. She leaked from her hatch into the sleeping compartment, due to the placement of a hole for the power cord to the stereo, that allowed water to drip from inside the galley (kitchen area on the back of the trailer) directly onto Liz's sleeping bag! The leaking was caused by inadequate weatherstripping on the galley hatch, as well as the cheap Home-Depot type piano hinges used for the galley hatch itself. This was temporarily fixed with additional weatherstripping but the problem of the drain hole into the sleeping compartment still exists.

2. Ventilation: Bubbles has two round portholes with screens that open up, but no other ventilation. Of course, she has an air conditioner, but to our surprise, the air conditioner didn't work. It would power up just fine, but the fan never blew. We didn't know if this was due to inadequate power at the campsite or a defective AC but without the AC it simply got too stuffy in there with two people sleeping. Not only that, the portholes are about halfway down the height of the body meaning that moist air that gets trapped at the top of the sleeping compartment has nowhere to go and this leads to condensation forming on the ceiling.

3. Height: The builder used a thick Dayton (mobile home) axle and put it in a spring-over-axle design. As a result, the "galley" platform is nearly unusable as it sits nearly 4' off the ground. Basically it's chest-height to me and almost neck-height to my wife, making it rather useless as a cooking platform (look at the picture above, the deck of the galley is at her shoulder height!) The height also requires me to run a raised trailer hitch and even so, the trailer leans downward.

4. Wheels: While the Dayton axle is rugged and robust, it requires oddball wheels that have no hub. The wheel mounts directly to the axle hub with wedges. According to some on the TNTTT.com website, these wedges are prone to loosening, and so require a lot of attention keeping them tight. Not only that, with no hub, there's no practical way to mount the spare tire, so I ended up carrying that on the roof rack of my tow vehicle.

5. Weight: Most factory built Teardrops weigh in at between 600 and 800lbs dry. Bubbles weighs 1115 lbs dry with a tongue weight of 205 lbs (18%.) For this reason alone, I decided to sell my 1999 4runner and get a 2007 instead for its more powerful engine and better towing ability. Much of the weight, IMO, is due to the very heavy Dayton axle.

6. Electric power: The shore power connection causes water to leak into the body of the trailer (and subsequently into the passenger compartment as described above) and is difficult to access. Also, all it does is allow 120v power when we are at a developed campsite - there is no provision for battery power.

With all that in mind, we have finally begun the work on the New! Improved! version of our trailer, which I am calling Bubbles v. 2.0! :elkgrin:

To be continued...
 
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Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
Part 2: Teardown!

Before we can build up, of course, we have to tear down the existing structure.

With a nice, warm weekend and a few days off, Liz and I started in.

My first order of business was that heavy Dayton axle. I took some rough measurements and found I could get a smaller, lighter axle for around $120. But first I had to get the old axle off.

Taking off the wheels was easy enough (glad I never had to change a flat, though - putting those wedgest back on by the side of the road would be a PITA!) Had to use the hydraulic jack from my 4runner to lift it up high enough to get the jackstands under the frame.

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Since we were moving the axle upwards, in addition to taking out the axle, I had to remove the fenders, as they will need to be relocated upwards on the body.

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Once the wheels were off I put two of the leveling scissor jacks that came with the trailer underneath the axle so it wouldn't drop suddenly, and began the laborious process of unbolting the axle. There was a lot of surface rust but since I knew the trailer was only about 2 years old, I wasn't worried. I did spray a generous amount of "liquid wrench" on it first, though!

....and off she came! Without any drama, but OMG, is that a heavy axle!

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You probably can't tell from the picture but the center of the axle is about 5" in diameter! I didn't even try to carry it anywhere, just rolled it over to the side of the driveway and snapped a photo so I could list it on CL.

Meanwhile, Liz was busy in the galley. First order of business was to remove the non-functioning AC:

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Carefully working with a chisel and screwdriver, she was able to get all of the various attaching screws disconnected. Unfortunately the builder also used some kind of hard plastic sealant which had to be chiseled through.

But, a little patience and elbow grease and finally it came free! Now we have a nice "picture window" from the galley into the sleeping cabin.

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We then took a look at the AC unit and noticed this gaping hole in the bottom:

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:Wow1: No, we did not do that removing it - it was like that when it came out! Might explain why the fan didn't seem to work. Glad we never seriously tried to use that AC, could have started a fire!

The last thing Liz did was to chisel up all the tile that was placed in the galley, as well as all the colored "bubbles" (which were painted wood discs) that she put there last year. She wants to go to a different decorating scheme for Version 2.0, though we're not sure exactly what that will be just yet.

So, as of the end of the day Saturday, here's how she stands:

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I'll get the axle this week and the wheels and tires if I can find some I like (I want to go with a "conventional" wheel that will accept a hub cap because I think baby moon hubcaps look great on teardrop trailers!)

As a side note, back in July, Liz and I refinished bubbles with some deck sealer and polyurethane spar varnish and I have to say I'm impressed by how well she's holding up for being stored outdoors. We do keep her covered with a heavy but breathable cover, and a pop-up canopy over the top of that, though.

TO BE CONTINUED...
 
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Waltzing Matilda

Adventurer
cute trailer!

I will definitely watch your progress! Have you heard of the TIny Trailer guys? I visited their showroom in San Diego today, met their installers who do warranty repair and custom installs. here are some images for inspiration: they are really lovely, hope mine can look as nice.

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I have an old Callen camper, and we measured it for ideas for custom cabinet, fridge, stove and other storage. For more ideas for your project check out http://littleguytrailers.net/

Keep posting updates!
 

AdamCollen

New member
Looks like a great start. One thing I would note is raising the ball on your tow vehicle to level the trailer a bit more. It would bring the height of the galley down a little bit in addition to swapping axle and going with an axle over spring setup.
 

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
Looks like a great start. One thing I would note is raising the ball on your tow vehicle to level the trailer a bit more. It would bring the height of the galley down a little bit in addition to swapping axle and going with an axle over spring setup.

If you're referring to the very first picture, that photo was taken on the day we picked her up. As you can see we used a receiver mounted hitch with a 2" drop because that's what my other trailer (a small utility trailer) requires. We had no idea this one would sit up so high.

Since then I've gone to a 4" drop receiver which I mount "reversed" to raise the ball about 3 1/2" as you can see here:

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Edit: Well, you could see it if my dog wasn't in the way! :D But rest assured, it's on a raised hitch.

But even so, the trailer still tilts downward.

Also, having the raised hitch wouldn't do anything to bring down the galley because we don't leave the trailer hooked to the truck when we park. It sits level on the jockey wheel. ;)
 

AdamCollen

New member
Well, it does look much better in the last picture. I'm pretty surprised at how high the kitchen sits when the trailer is level.
 

weswilde

New member
Sounds like you are following the sameness between rv and boats. Good, look for solutions to your ventilation there as well. There are many possabiltys. That only use a 3 or 4 in hole. Keep up the good work.
 

Mark Harley

Expedition Leader
Craigslist the old axle to recoup some cost on the new one.
Finding a steelie wheel that takes a baby moon should be easy to find.
Cool little trailer.
 

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
Well, I was going to work on bubbles today until I looked outside...


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Yeah...maybe not. :elkgrin:

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But at least our dog Shaila was having a good day.
 

Martinjmpr

Wiffleball Batter
Part 3: Some interior/exterior work

(Xposted from http://www.tnttt.com)

So my plan was to pick up my new axle on Saturday morning and then install it (Saturday was the only work day available because Sunday the kids were coming over to the house with the new grandbaby to celebrate her first Easter!)

Well, that was the plan. Have you ever heard the saying "If you want to hear God laugh, make a plan?" :eek:

So I took my 4runner down to the trailer shop, told them exactly what I wanted and they found it in the warehouse. A 2000lb straight axle, 72" hub face to hub face with the hubs already on it (5 on 4.5 - standard wheel size.) I was assured that they had one with the axle seats at 60" (our trailer measures 59 3/4" between axle seats but I figured that 1/4" wasn't a big deal since it only meant a difference of 1/8" on each side.) So we go to measure the axle seats and they are - 58". Way too short to work on our trailer. Guy at the axle shop was very nice, said he could move the axle seats -

"But not today." :(

So I paid for the axle and went home. I'll pick it up before work tomorrow.

But I was determined to do as much work as I could. First order of business was to get rid of these awful rain gutters the builder put on there:

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So what's so awful about them? Well, besides the fact that they look butt-ugly on our nice wood trailer, they are cheap and their sharp edges have cut the crap out of two different covers. This even AFTER I took a dremel tool and rounded off the corners. They're just too sharp. And ugly. Really ugly.

Unscrewing them was easy, but of course they were also glued/sealed on. So out came the chisel and hammer, as carefully as I could.

Getting the first gutter off the side (which is made of 3/4" Marine grade plywood) was easy. I barely even chipped the wood.

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Alas, the two gutters (one above the hatch, and one at the bottom of the hatch) was much more troublesome. Adding to this is the fact that his is only about 1/4" or 5/16" plywood, meaning that the 'divots' pulled up by glued-on gutters were quite deep:

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But at least it was DONE. Once we have wheels on, we will move Bubbles into the garage for a complete refinishing and that will include sanding and filling these divots and putting in some nice wooden rain gutters (we got some great ideas for wooden gutters on some of the trailers we saw at Walk the Winds in Wyoming!)

To Be Continued....
 

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