Cleghorn to Johnson Valley, California

[Explorer 1]

Leading a group on a number of trails from Cleghorn Ridge of off Interstate 15 to Johnson Valley. We're calling it the "CJ" trip. The route will be just under 100 miles and we'll take most of the tougher trails (if there open). The idea is to connect the "dots" between, The Cleghorn, Pilot Rock, Willow Creek, Dishpan Springs, Holcomb Valley, John Bull, Jacobs Canyon, Heartbreak Ridge, and then Rattlesnake canyon.

Should be fun and stretch some of the drivers ability. :smiley_drive:

We'll start early this Friday am and hope to be back home Saturday night.

Thanks,
Fred
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[Ed B]

The following information is posted on the Adventure Rider Forum. I do not know if it will affect your plans:

BAD news for Arrowhead and Cleghorn !!!
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I got this in an email from a an adopt-a-trail volunteer , who knows some of the rangers up there.

Sounds real bad . Any body hear anything on this?

Email reads vvvvvv
FYI.

Some changes to the 50" OHV trails located north of Lake Arrowhead will be made this week.

These projects are a result of the San Bernardino National Forest Travel Management Plan Decision.

At North Shore Work Center, the Administrative trail leading from North Shore Campground Road to 3W12 (now 3W65) is going to be rerouted.

The new Administrative Trail will leave the Work Center and travel east past the sea crates directly out to 2N25. This will allow Volunteer and Staff green sticker access to the forest.

The southeast sections of 3W12 (now 3W65) and 3W13 will be decommissioned by chunking and mounding. There will be boulder barricades placed at the intersections with 2N28Y.

The section of 3W12 (now 3W65) from 2N28Y to 2N75 will be decommissioned and barricaded with boulders.

Looking at the northern sections of 3W12 (now 3W65) and 3W13 there will be two reroutes completed this week.

For 3W13, the reroute will occur above the last pitch of 3W13 that drops onto 3N34 at Willow Creek. This small section (steep hillclimb) will be decommissioned and barricaded. The 3W13 reroute will travel east directly onto 3N34.

The northern intersection of 3W12 (now 3W65) at 3N34 will be decommissioned and ~1/2 of 3W12 will be decommissioned heading west from said intersection. The reroute will connect 3W65 with 3N34.

Sometime in August 2010, the section of 3W12 (by now you should know is 3W65) from 2N75 WNW to 3N31.1 (Old Sewer Pond Road) will be decommissioned. The reroute will start near 3N31.1 and will travel NNE connecting with 3W13.

This is another email.
I went up Cleghorn and I saw the blockades are un-passable ( by Jeep anyway)...

Email reads vvvvvvv
FYI
As you may know, some of the unauthorized routes (bypasses) on Cleghorn have been blocked and slashed with brush. Some of the bypasses that are not blocked will become legal, designated, numbered roads.

This effort is part of the SBNF travel management decision. All of the closures should reflect the final SBNF Motor Vehicle Use Map. The contract restoration crews and equipment are starting this project on the west side of the main divide (I-15) and working east. Finishing east of Big Bear.

The crews are in the Lake Arrowhead area this week. The Contractor is working quickly and efficiently.

If you have any concerns or comments about this project or need any specifics, please contact me.

Hopefully, you were able to attend any of our Travel Management Open House meetings and comment on these projects over the past five years.

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[Explorer 1]

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Thanks "Ed B"

I checked out my forest service map and while these are close they don't appear to be trails that will effect us with the exception of any work done on the Cleghorn.

I'll be checking out trail closures Thursday and hopefully we will be able to stay with our original plan.

Thanks again,

Fred
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[FishPOET]

http://www.expeditionportal.com/overlandroutes/index.php/Cajon_Pass_to_Johnson_Valley

2N47 Cleghorn is open but many of the bypasses have been closed.

None of the work near Lake Arrowhead will affect you as it is all on 50" trails.

3N93 Holcomb Creek is still closed.

If you are planning on 3N17 White Mountain it is open but some of it's bypasses are closed and more are slated for closure.

The winter closures near Big Bear are still in effect but that should not affect your trip.

Have fun!

 

[adventureduo]

Sounds cool.. please take pics and do a trip report! I'd like to see / read it.

Wow Doug thats a great page.. im bookmarking it.

 

[OzX]

Leading a group on a number of trails from Cleghorn Ridge of off Interstate 15 to Johnson Valley. We're calling it the "CJ" trip. The route will be just under 100 miles and we'll take most of the tougher trails (if there open). The idea is to connect the "dots" between, The Cleghorn, Pilot Rock, Willow Creek, Dishpan Springs, Holcomb Valley, John Bull, Jacobs Canyon, Heartbreak Ridge, and then Rattlesnake canyon.

Should be fun and stretch some of the drivers ability. :smiley_drive:

We'll start early this Friday am and hope to be back home Saturday night.

Wow, seems to do all those trails in one day is certainly ambitious! Wishing you success

 

[Explorer 1]

All helpful information......

Doug,

Thanks, we'll see just how much of the Cleghorn is closed. Hopefully, we won't have to drive the fire road all the way.

Bummer about Holcomb, I'm calling to see if by some chance it will open this week-end.

We don't plan on the White Mountain trail.

OZX,

Yes, it would be a lot to do in 1 day, we're taking two.

Mostly just drivers this trip very few passangers, so taking pictures will be tougher, but I'll do my best.

Thanks,

Fred
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[FishPOET]

Doug,

Thanks, we'll see just how much of the Cleghorn is closed. Hopefully, we won't have to drive the fire road all the way.

Bummer about Holcomb, I'm calling to see if by some chance it will open this week-end.

Just got this notice today

Due to a high number of standing burned trees (hazards) adjacent to Holcomb Creek Road (3N93) and Lower Larga Flat Road (2N06X) , they will remain closed this Summer.

Some maps of the trail decommissioning project going on in the SBNF right now.

http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17372

 

[Explorer 1]

A brief video of one aspect of the trip......

Here is a brief video covering one small aspect of our trip.

More later,

Thanks,
Fred
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[barlowrs]

Wow, that was an "eventful" trip..haha, hope everyone had a good time despite the "bruises".

Nice vid though!

 

[mrchips]

Where can I get a detailed map of This area that will show all the trails and the campgrounds. Thanks in advance

 

[mrchips]

I am to lead our club on this trail end of June. What about campsites @ the start and on route, any info will be most helpful. Thanks

 

[Explorer 1]

Maps and camp grounds.......

Where can I get a detailed map of This area that will show all the trails and the campgrounds. Thanks in advance

The best I found was the United States Department of Agriculture, Forest Service California, San Bernardino Nation Forest, map number R5-RG-083. Mine was printed in 2007.

As far as campgrounds at the beginning, there is a regional park we stayed once, Mojave Rivers Forks Regional Park on Hwy 173 north of Lake Silverwood. It even has hot showers!

Up Lyle Creek there are also a few campground, but I have never stayed in one.

Near Morman Rocks there are some pockets of BLM land that I have stayed in but if your going with a group I don't quite how it would work out.

Many of the trails are described in Well's book of Southern California Off-road trails.

 

[SWbySWesty]

Hey, that's a neat page of "overland routes". I'll bookmark it and hopefully add to it as well!

 

[mrchips]

With closures that I see going on in the San Bernadino Mountains, does anyone think that this trip is still possible, without to much problem,,,

http://www.expeditionportal.com/overlandroutes/index.php/Cajon_Pass_to_Johnson_Valley

and the link to the closures. Thanks for any help.

http://www.myjeeprocks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17372