Considering a Nissan

[articulate]

I've been really pleased with our Frontier; the highway manners, the durability, and driving it just feels good to me, which is a major part of owning a vehicle and being happy IMO.

There are a few things I'm not crazy about, namely the back seat is not comfortable, the interior has several fragile points, and since the power is all at high RPMs it takes more work than your Rover does to negotiate steep obstacles. "Work" meaning I've had to develop more left foot braking technique to keep the RPMs up and my speed slow, or rely on momentum. Therefore on the harder trails I feel like it just doesn't drive with much finesse. I came from a world of Land Rovers and Jeeps prior to my Frontier, both of which are better performers on the trail.

I believe one of the big reasons why the OME suspension isn't terribly popular is that it's not as tall as the other options out there. It's modest lift height, something like 1.5". So many dudes compare their dollars to the number of inches gained and have a hard time paying more for less lift height - total conjecture on my part. I installed the rear OME suspension last year, and I'm really happy with it. Maybe things have changed, but the only way to get a full leaf pack replacement was with the OME, and they make a well respected product. Still satisfied, and I'm looking forward to replacing the front suspension with it, too.

For what it's worth, a Flip would be seriously cool no matter the truck you get.

Cheers,
Mark

 

[SpencerFitch]

I've been really pleased with our Frontier; the highway manners, the durability, and driving it just feels good to me, which is a major part of owning a vehicle and being happy IMO.

There are a few things I'm not crazy about, namely the back seat is not comfortable, the interior has several fragile points, and since the power is all at high RPMs it takes more work than your Rover does to negotiate steep obstacles. "Work" meaning I've had to develop more left foot braking technique to keep the RPMs up and my speed slow, or rely on momentum. Therefore on the harder trails I feel like it just doesn't drive with much finesse. I came from a world of Land Rovers and Jeeps prior to my Frontier, both of which are better performers on the trail.

I believe one of the big reasons why the OME suspension isn't terribly popular is that it's not as tall as the other options out there. It's modest lift height, something like 1.5". So many dudes compare their dollars to the number of inches gained and have a hard time paying more for less lift height - total conjecture on my part. I installed the rear OME suspension last year, and I'm really happy with it. Maybe things have changed, but the only way to get a full leaf pack replacement was with the OME, and they make a well respected product. Still satisfied, and I'm looking forward to replacing the front suspension with it, too.

For what it's worth, a Flip would be seriously cool no matter the truck you get.

Cheers,
Mark

Most likely due to land rovers lower gearing in LOW. Land Rover is known for this.

 

[RonapRhys]

I believe I can get 2" of lift for the X (and the Fronty) for $240. I've heard good things about these folks. Not sure about what's going on for OME, though I know they've got a very good name as well. PRG, who's also known for great service, is at $258. (This is an Xterra price, but I believe the parts for the Fronty are interchangeable.)

This are simple spacer and shackle lifts and from everything I hear, going more than 2" of lift requires new control arms (definitely uppers, likely lowers). Not sure on the Fronty, but one other need for the X is to purchase the cam bolt adjusters for the suspension and it's generally recommended to get the shims and ubolt kit (though many folks get by without it).

PRG also has more extensive lift kits, so those might become more comparable to the OME stuff.

 

[fishy_frontier]

^In regards to low range trail performance and gearing... If you decide to go with a frontier consider that there are different gear ratios in different models. The Pro-4x model will have more adequate gearing for crawling difficult obstacles.

 

[articulate]

^In regards to low range trail performance and gearing... If you decide to go with a frontier consider that there are different gear ratios in different models. The Pro-4x model will have more adequate gearing for crawling difficult obstacles.

You know, that's a good point. I have a SE model (boo-hoo), no doubt the Pro-4x is geared better.

 

[AKRover]

Toyota list the final axle ratio of the crew cab 4x4 as 3.73 in their brochure but ther is no mention of gear rations in the Nissan brochure. Anyone know what it is?

 

[OzX]

Toyota list the final axle ratio of the crew cab 4x4 as 3.73 in their brochure but ther is no mention of gear rations in the Nissan brochure. Anyone know what it is?

Which Model? Historically the Fronty and Xterra Gen 2s have been 313s for the ATs and 369s for the manuals. Titans IIRC are 336s and 354s

 

[fishy_frontier]

Model - Gear Ratio - Number of Teeth (Gear/Pinion)
QR25DE KC M/T 4x2 - 4.083 - 49/12
QR25DE KC A/T 4x2 - 3.692 - 48/13
VQ40DE KC A/T 4x2 - 2.937 - 47/16
VQ40DE CC A/T 4x2 - 3.133 - 47/15
VQ40DE KC A/T 4x4 - 3.133 - 47/15
VQ40DE CC A/T 4x4 - 3.357 - 47/14

 

[CoastalDefender]

I've beaten the crap out of my prg spacers but ok mike:sombrero:

+1 :victory:

 

[AKRover]

Model - Gear Ratio - Number of Teeth (Gear/Pinion)
QR25DE KC M/T 4x2 - 4.083 - 49/12
QR25DE KC A/T 4x2 - 3.692 - 48/13
VQ40DE KC A/T 4x2 - 2.937 - 47/16
VQ40DE CC A/T 4x2 - 3.133 - 47/15
VQ40DE KC A/T 4x4 - 3.133 - 47/15
VQ40DE CC A/T 4x4 - 3.357 - 47/14

Looks like it would be 3.357 gearing in the models I'm looking at. Thanks.