Current coleman stoves?
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pugslyyy
Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Which reviews? amazon is favorable, and their reviews are pretty reliable.
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Burne...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Burne...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
Colin Hughes
Explorer
If you are going to compare it to your 80's stove then yes. I'm still running my early 80's one too. Parts don't seem to be a problem as there is a supplier 20 minutes from my home at a local hardware store. I've looked at newer stoves too but have chosen to continue to use the old workhorse 
mtnbike28
Expedition Leader
Rebuild your old stove. I bet all the parts except the grill (don't know why) are still available. I rebuilt my grandfather's 1960s 425, after my brother took it to the beach and left sand/salt on/in it in the garage. Sanded the case and painted with BBQ paint, clean and painted the manifold, new burners and tube thing. Oiled the pump and replaced the cap and it burns better than new.
http://www.coleman.com/Parts/240/coleman-fuel and http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php?cat=23&page=1
http://www.coleman.com/Parts/240/coleman-fuel and http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/home.php?cat=23&page=1
obscurotron
Adventurer
These things were meant (IMO) to be rebuilt and used until the End of Days. My mid-90's Coleman 2 burner dual fuel is holding up fine, as is my similar vintage gas lantern (sorry, always forget model #'s). I got a mid-70's lantern (Freecycle!) that "won't work, good for parts." a few years back. A good cleaning, a new pump and removing a bunch of sediment from the fuel tank and she runs like a champ now.
I also bought one of the single burner stoves for my solo kit, about 2 years ago. It works great. With regular care and feeding, I suspect my grandkids will have it to use (until EPA bans the things, anyway).
My mid-90's Coleman 2 burner dual fuel is holding up fine, as is my similar vintage gas lantern (sorry, always forget model #'s). I got a mid-70's lantern (Freecycle!) that "won't work, good for parts." a few years back. A good cleaning, a new pump and removing a bunch of sediment from the fuel tank and she runs like a champ now. I also bought one of the single burner stoves for my solo kit, about 2 years ago. It works great. With regular care and feeding, I suspect my grandkids will have it to use (until EPA bans the things, anyway).
xplrn42
Adventurer
I've got a coleman two burner propane that I bought maybe 4 years ago. Probably 20+ trips on it and it's doing fine.....needs cleaning, haha. The burner closest to the bottle burns a lot stronger than the opposite burner, doesn't bother me but it's something to note. Other than that, it's been very solid and dependable and I'd buy another with no issues.
With that said: I would rebuild your old one. In the near future, once I get my new rig set up like I want, I'm going to start looking for an old rusty "classic" stove and lantern to replace my new shiny ones.
With that said: I would rebuild your old one. In the near future, once I get my new rig set up like I want, I'm going to start looking for an old rusty "classic" stove and lantern to replace my new shiny ones.
cruiseroutfit
Well-known member
x5 on rebuilding the older model. Really hard to beat and parts are easy to source and cheap.
Snorkeld_Zuk
Adventurer
I have an old 425 dual burner I picked up in mint condition at a 2nd hand store. Added a propane adapter and I wouldn't trade it for a new one! The ability to use 3 different fuels is nice.
clandr1
Adventurer
Not stove related, but along the same lines, I rebulit a Coleman lantern that my Dad gave me. We used it when I was a kid growing up and I thought it was pretty cool that I got to have one of the two lanterns we used (he gave the other one to my brother). If I remember right, it had a date stamp of 1986. I dismantled the whole thing, lubed the pump valve seal, ordered a new generator, and cleaned it up. It looks almost brand new - pretty cool for an almost 30 year old lantern.
You can buy parts directly from Coleman's website if you want to refurb an old stove, heater, or lantern.
You can buy parts directly from Coleman's website if you want to refurb an old stove, heater, or lantern.
I forgot that my family had a old 425 stove. I cleaned out the garage and found it under a bunch of junk, bin sitting 20+yrs. I added some fuel, pumped it up and lite her up. Smelled a bit of burning dust and other weird smells, but its running like a champ again. No parts were replaced, and ive done some simple cooking with it, bacon eggs, coffee and I picked up one of those coleman ovens that you can fold down for some small pizzas.
How about a 97 year old Lantern? Found on the local Craig's last weekend.
These Coleman products were made well enough to work for more decades than most people live.
For the OP, a 1980 stove is practically new. Here's my every trip user from 1957:
The nice part is the stoves used the same replacement parts from mid 50's until now. Any part you need to service it is available from Old Coleman Parts. It is likely you need a generator ($15) and a new fuel cap ($5) and your stove will be good as new and can camp with you for another 30 years.
thanks for the replies..
took a drive out to Cabelas last night and looked at the new stove offerings...zoinks. they do appear to be more cheaply made than in the past..
As far as rebuilding, time does not allow that right now. there is a ton of rust on the suitcase so it needs to be sanded and repainted (is there even a coleman green??), and that is a project for another day.
In the meantime I'll probably seek out an older 425...ive seen a few that are NOS from the 70s...pricey, but around the same price as a new stove.
Also, whats up with the BTU rating on these? The coleman website lists the current generation as 14,000 BTU total, while references for older units list 21,000 BTUs with one burner, or when using both, 11,500 BTUs on the main and 9,500 BTUs on the auxiliary.
took a drive out to Cabelas last night and looked at the new stove offerings...zoinks. they do appear to be more cheaply made than in the past..
As far as rebuilding, time does not allow that right now. there is a ton of rust on the suitcase so it needs to be sanded and repainted (is there even a coleman green??), and that is a project for another day.
In the meantime I'll probably seek out an older 425...ive seen a few that are NOS from the 70s...pricey, but around the same price as a new stove.
Also, whats up with the BTU rating on these? The coleman website lists the current generation as 14,000 BTU total, while references for older units list 21,000 BTUs with one burner, or when using both, 11,500 BTUs on the main and 9,500 BTUs on the auxiliary.
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Don't get too hung up on the BTUs. There is more than enough heat to cook your food. On the 413s which is the larger 2 burner, I think it's 8500/7500 or close. The Smaller 425 is a bit less. Lots of clean stoves on Ebay and sometimes they go really cheap. Craigslist is a great source but it takes times to deal with the flakes and sort out the crap from the gems. But on Craigs, good stoves are usually under $40 and frequently under $20. The green 3 burner above was $25 from the original owner and worked on the first try. I have a couple of other 3 burners that were $10-$20. I think in the end for car based camping you'll want a 413. The Footprint is larger for stability and they will handle bigger pots, but they are not huge like a 426.
I have an early 90's 414 (the 413 dual fuel equivalent), that's every bit as good as the early 70's 413. You could look for one of those too.
Cleaning up a rusty stove case is probably not worth it unless you do it for therapy. Although, a motorized wire brush, and a couple of spray bombs and it would be good enough to keep using. To do it right, involves electrolysis to kill the rust, phosphate treatment, prime and paint. It will look new but it's a lot of work. I've done one to change color, but l'll never do another. Rustoleum Hunter green is a very good match for Coleman green, but Coleman paint varied all over in color so it isn't critical and won't effect how well the stove works.
Here is a rebuild tutorial:
http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/resources/re_stove_a.php
Check this out for details from Coolerman (Land Cruiser enthusiast/electrical genius). He powercoated, but paint is just a good to prevent future rust.
http://www.globalsoftware-inc.com/coolerman/coleman/campstove/Model425E.htm
I have an early 90's 414 (the 413 dual fuel equivalent), that's every bit as good as the early 70's 413. You could look for one of those too.
Cleaning up a rusty stove case is probably not worth it unless you do it for therapy. Although, a motorized wire brush, and a couple of spray bombs and it would be good enough to keep using. To do it right, involves electrolysis to kill the rust, phosphate treatment, prime and paint. It will look new but it's a lot of work. I've done one to change color, but l'll never do another. Rustoleum Hunter green is a very good match for Coleman green, but Coleman paint varied all over in color so it isn't critical and won't effect how well the stove works.
Here is a rebuild tutorial:
http://www.oldcolemanparts.com/resources/re_stove_a.php
Check this out for details from Coolerman (Land Cruiser enthusiast/electrical genius). He powercoated, but paint is just a good to prevent future rust.
http://www.globalsoftware-inc.com/coolerman/coleman/campstove/Model425E.htm
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clandr1
Adventurer
You Landcruiser guys and your OCD... It isn't just truck-specific
My buddy has a '94 80, and we take three times as long to do something on his truck compared to an identical project on mine. We actually work well together since I'm usually the one who gets pissed and reaches for a bigger hammer, whereas he helps slow things down and contemplate what we're about to do.