Detailed pictures of coil sprung Ford E-series 4x4 conversion?

[sdski]

I'm looking for detailed pictures of coil sprung 4x4 conversions, such as sportsmobiles or quigleys, specifically of the drivers side coil bucket on the axle. For example, heres an awful cell phone picture I took as I was quickly walking by what I believe was a Quigley (in a hurry and forgot to look) which shows a cast coil bucket attached to the yoke.



Control arm pictures would be awesome too! I have tried searching around but can't find anything close up and detailed enough. Thanks in advance if you have one of these conversions and don't mind snapping some pictures next time you are out wrenching.

 

[Sheep Shagger]

Sportsmobile conversion is leaf not coil. Here are a bunch of My Quigley, taken a long time ago for something else, but they have what you asked for.

Others below
http://sheepshagger.smugmug.com/Cars/Bits-N-Pieces/11117017_zxthwR#P-1-15

 

[sdski]

The motherload of pics!! Exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Slightly different setup from what I saw yesterday but same idea. Hows does the quigley ride? What year is it? Looks like the axle is a 1999-04 superduty 60. Does anyone have any clue if they started using the super 60 in Quigley vans in '05 when they started putting coils in the superduty? I might need to wander around work and see if anyone has an 05+ superduty.

 

[Sheep Shagger]

Mine is an 06. Axle spec is 02 F2/350 D60 according to Quigley. Ride is about the same as any F350 diesel I've been in, just a tad harsher in the front and softer in the rear. Mine is diesel so the front springs are slightly stronger to the gas engine Quigley's.

 

[nely]

Ride is about the same as any F350 diesel I've been in, just a tad harsher in the front and softer in the rear.

I hope not. I drove a 2006 f350 6.0 diesel the other day and all i can say is WOW!!! That was a god awful harsh ride for 50 miles.

My ujoint van felt way softer and better at speed than the truck did.

 

[sdski]

I drove a 2006 f350 6.0 diesel the other day and all i can say is WOW!!! That was a god awful harsh ride for 50 miles.

My ujoint van felt way softer and better at speed than the truck did.

Hmmm... Decisions, decisions. I'm toying with the idea of a long-arm coil setup, it will be a good little project and be easier to go up in height down the line if I want. The biggest upside for me was ride quality, but I have not ridden in a coil sprung superduty. I think those trucks in general, coil or leaf, don't ride the best, they are meant for work.

Obviously a proper leaf with a spring rate to match the weight of the van and and quality shocks will ride well, but I think it would be a little smoother if I could lay out a good coil system. I want to keep my ABS, so the modern D60s are appealing, but the cast on spring pads were making me wonder if they would be in the way. Plus I tracked down a ridiculous deal on a complete one, steering, swaybar, calipers and all, a few hours away, which I'm hoping will be mine this weekend.

Anyways, I'm still working out the details but I need an axle here to figure the rest out. Ujoint has a good thing going though, his setup seems pretty nice, so that has always been in my mind, initially I was pretty set on going that route until my roommate got me thinking about coils.

Hopefully this thread doesn't explode into a coil vs. leaf discussion now, I'm not really looking for that. Just pictures...

Thanks for the help so far, the pictures are totally what I am looking for. If anyone has some from a coil sprung superduty I'd love to see those too, the ones I have found online are all from angles that are just a tad off.

 

[ujoint]

It all depends on how much fabrication you want to do. A nice coil sprung long arm kit will be nice, but require a lot of work. If you have the time & resources, go for it!

You'll want to remove the coil buckets and move the axle forward, which will require a very strong coil or coilover mount to support the whole front end. If you keep the stock buckets you'll be limited on tire size due to the tiny wheel wells. Then there's the trac bar, and there's limited room there too. It has to go between the gear box & engine x-member.

So like I said, if you have the resources go for it. If you want the van 4wd in a long weekend, call me

 

[Ozrockrat]

Then you could go a hybrid method. Put a UJoint kit in and get on the road. Then look at using the leafs as the locators and adding a set of coils for some suppleness. I have setup like this on my land cruiser. Sorry no photos it is on a different continent to me.

http://www.freds4wd.com.au/coil.html this is the guy that did mine 20 years ago. Works fantastically. You could probably have the same effect these days using some good coil over shocks.

And again trying to stay away from a coil/leaf pissing match. I have both at home (sadly the leaf is not a UJOR set yet) and the leaf is a bit harsher but handles better. The coil (Quigley) ride is low, plush and the turning circle sucks.

As soon as I can justify it there will be a UJOR kit going into the Quigley. One of the additional driving factors that Chris mentioned is getting some serious tires under there. I have a Dana 80 in the rear that with 245/75/16 tires is about 4" off the ground. I need a rubber lift rather than anything done to get height from the suspension to get the diff center clearance and moving the front axle forward is the best way to achieve it.

 

[Sheep Shagger]

The coil (Quigley) ride is low, plush and the turning circle sucks..

Quigley has changed this over the years, my 06 has a turning radius way better than the leaf sprung F350 and on-par with coil sprung F350. About the same as radius as a sportsmobile conversion.

As soon as I can justify it there will be a UJOR kit going into the Quigley.

I'm with you on that one, I keep looking at the control arm setup on the Quigley wondering how I can change it, but I think in the end I'll be doing a UJoint setup.
Although I do keep looking at the salem kroger setup with F350 control arms.

 

[tribeof5]

We have an 04 quigley extended base van. Had some adjustable control arms built and installed. This allowed me to push the axle forward 1.5" it helped tremendously with turning radius as well as allowing me to run a 305/55/20 on the stock quigley lift. I am very pleased with it.

I have also ridden in a conversion done by Ujoint. It handles and rides way better than my Quigley. I will definitely put his conversion under my next van. I live 20 minutes from his shop so its extremely tough to keep me away from there. LOL his kit can be installed pretty quick and has proven to be capable. Good luck.

 

[njtacoma]

longer arm?

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/56564-Teaser?highlight=derek+quigley
This thread has some info about longer arms.

 

[sdski]

If you want the van 4wd in a long weekend, call me

Haha, you seem like a good salesman...

Yeah the plan right now is 33's/metric equivalent, so clearing the wheel wells won't be much of an issue. Thats a good point though, I didn't think about that. The diff/crossmember clearance is a concern of mine though, as I am not trying to go super high on this (highway queen) and looking for the 4x4 for winter camping/ski trips. I can't say I sought out an extended E250 for wheeling purposes...

This allowed me to push the axle forward 1.5" it helped tremendously with turning radius as well as allowing me to run a 305/55/20 on the stock quigley lift.

Tribe, whats the stock quigley lift height roughly? This is around the tire size I am looking for.

Initially I was concerned with the 99-04 Ford D60s since my roommate and I were taking a look at a co-workers Excursion (D50) and he was concerned about the cast on spring pads (he has more knowledge of this than I do), but seeing them modified for coils makes me feel better about it, since I have seen a few good deals on these axles around me and they leave my options open for a wonderful Ujoint kit...

Anyways, I have the resources, and I could make the time, but winter keeps getting closer, work keeps kicking my *** more and I keep hearing about more and more happy customers getting some packages from North Carolina. I plan on getting the axle so I can get some measurements for myself then making the decision.

 

[tribeof5]

I believe the stock quigley lift is considered to be 4" taller than a normal 2 wheel drive e350 van. This is what quigley advertises.

 

[sdski]

Does Quigley put the newer style ('05+ coil sprung) dana 60s under their vans these days? Does anyone know how the spring pad width compares to the van's buckets?

I had decided to go leaf sprung, but just got offered front and rear 4.10 axles from an 05 F-250 with 20k miles to replace the busted axle I previously got. Its something to think about for sure...