Diesel question....

p nut

butter
Another thing is, many people buy their vehicle, get it paid off, then want to keep it as long as possible. It would be horrible to HAVE to get rid of it, and only get reimbursed for a small portion of it's actual day to day value for the owner. $5000 wont even buy a good used car these days. Once again, the consumer looses. If they offered me $5000 for my car (150,000+ miles) or truck, I'd say forget it, it's worth way more than that to me.


The VW owners are getting KBB value + $5k (according to the other poster. I haven't verified). There would be an upheaval if TDI owners only got back $5k. That's equivalent of an oil change on those cars.
 

One shot

Observer
Just turned ours in with 40k miles. Got about 1k less than we paid new in 2013.


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TwinStick

Explorer
Thanks Malibubts, that WAS an excellent summary.

I have not drank the kool-aid of the whole global warming thing but pollution is bad, I will definitely agree. Lowering pollution, waste, recycling are all good things. But I would think the majority of that type of pollution would come from semi-trucks & vehicles like that, that have zero emission reduction ?
 

Clutch

<---Pass
Thanks Malibubts, that WAS an excellent summary.

I have not drank the kool-aid of the whole global warming thing but pollution is bad, I will definitely agree. Lowering pollution, waste, recycling are all good things. But I would think the majority of that type of pollution would come from semi-trucks & vehicles like that, that have zero emission reduction ?

VW only makes up about 2% of the market for yearly US auto sales, how of many those are diesels I don't know. So in the big scheme of things...think the whole diesel pollution thing that VW's actually produce is blown waaay out of proportion.

Semi's are coming under fire too.

EPA regulations maybe changing here with the new Administration. Is that a good or bad thing? Time will tell.
 

Paddy

Adventurer
Another thing is, many people buy their vehicle, get it paid off, then want to keep it as long as possible. It would be horrible to HAVE to get rid of it, and only get reimbursed for a small portion of it's actual day to day value for the owner. $5000 wont even buy a good used car these days. Once again, the consumer looses. If they offered me $5000 for my car (150,000+ miles) or truck, I'd say forget it, it's worth way more than that to me.
ANyone that is offered real money plus 5k for their VW will be dancing in the streets. It's a VW thing. If you've never tried it, don't start.
 

::Squish::

Observer
Heavy diesel trucks have also come under the emissions microscope.
And in some places they have been required to add exhaust scrubbers onto trucks that didn't come with them from the factory.

I live near a large port facility and since the chance to clean idle our air is cleaner.
 

Buliwyf

Viking with a Hammer
CA is nuts though.

I completed converting a Natural Gas generator in a trailer to Liquid Propane. I used an aftermarket vaporizer to get the propane down to a gas and at exactly the pressure the generator needed. Then simply reset the ignition timing and I was good to go.

It failed inspection in CA because the demand regulator wasn't up-side down. When you convert NG to Propane gas, you just flip the demand regulator and pull out it's spring. I have no idea why the CA inspector would even know about that, but it doesn't apply to 0 pressure systems or systems with LIQUID propane. I get a kick of how an eco natzi bean counter thought he knew better than a master tech.

The poor customer flipped the demand regulator then complained that the engine wouldn't run. LOLz. I went out and flipped it back over and told them to find a new inspector or pound sand and put a diesel in. Nothing more I could do. LOLz.

Tier V diesel engines were a step too far IMO. Tier IV was perfectly fine, and clean enough. The next step to Tier V reduced emissions doubled the cost of some of my prime movers.
 

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