Stoffregen Motorsports
Explorer
Well put.
Ditch the 80 for a Power Wagon?
- Thread starter The_Dude
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Well put.
If only you'd've kept that 1998 Tacoma you sold me a buncha years back, eh? Great truck, and I wish I still had it.
redthies
Renaissance Redneck
Exactly! I have owned 7 Dodge Rams from '94-'14, and 8 Land Cruisers from '74-'99. I would happily own all of them again. It's not about the generalized perception, it's about individual reality!
Stoffregen Motorsports
Explorer
kinda old thread, but I just sold my HZJ75 Land cruiser after 120'000km overlanding through the Americas. There was NOT one week where I was not under this car fixing stuff. The ones who know me can tell.
It had less than 200'000km when we left and sold it now with 300'000km. The only thing that didn't fail was the engine, although it had a head gasket oil leak since I bought it and still is leaking, but at least it never got worst (no, it wasn't the valve cover, it as 100% the head gasket)
There are enough fools here in Europe that will pay you gold for those cars so that's good for resale. But for me never a Toyota again. Not saying it was a terrible car, but Toyota also only cooks with water and is way overrated. Most (not all) Toyota overlanders I personally know also had major problems, especially the >2001 HZJ78 series where they brake transmissions and axles like other people change oil filters. I just noticed that most will never tell you except you really know them well or find out through other ways. And this for a 3rd world car that costs 60-70'000km and has zero comfort.
Empty those cars should be ok, but most 7series overlanders drive with 7700lbs and more and those cars (although Toyota says so!) are just not built for this type of use, even at 3tons my friend broke 2x his rear axle housing and 3 transmissions on a 100'000km HZJ78 in Afrika and Australia.
Oh and the HDJ80series I also saw a few ripping out the front axle strut bar bracket on the axle (not sure how you call it in english) or friend of mine failed his transfer. They seem to be better built, but it's not like they were rocket science. At least they have a good trans!
Anyway, I just bought a PW. I don't mind to work on the car and repair stuff and I am prepared for it. But it cost me 4x less than a 7series Toyota, has way more comfort, has 3x the power and should be able to hold the 7700lbs way better than the 7series Toyota. If you pay that much and everyone tells you a Toyota never fails and you have every 1000km a major failure then it's time for something new.
Anyway, this is my personal experience with the 7series in 3.5years overlanding off the regular roads.
my 2 cents
It had less than 200'000km when we left and sold it now with 300'000km. The only thing that didn't fail was the engine, although it had a head gasket oil leak since I bought it and still is leaking, but at least it never got worst (no, it wasn't the valve cover, it as 100% the head gasket)
There are enough fools here in Europe that will pay you gold for those cars so that's good for resale. But for me never a Toyota again. Not saying it was a terrible car, but Toyota also only cooks with water and is way overrated. Most (not all) Toyota overlanders I personally know also had major problems, especially the >2001 HZJ78 series where they brake transmissions and axles like other people change oil filters. I just noticed that most will never tell you except you really know them well or find out through other ways. And this for a 3rd world car that costs 60-70'000km and has zero comfort.
Empty those cars should be ok, but most 7series overlanders drive with 7700lbs and more and those cars (although Toyota says so!) are just not built for this type of use, even at 3tons my friend broke 2x his rear axle housing and 3 transmissions on a 100'000km HZJ78 in Afrika and Australia.
Oh and the HDJ80series I also saw a few ripping out the front axle strut bar bracket on the axle (not sure how you call it in english) or friend of mine failed his transfer. They seem to be better built, but it's not like they were rocket science. At least they have a good trans!
Anyway, I just bought a PW. I don't mind to work on the car and repair stuff and I am prepared for it. But it cost me 4x less than a 7series Toyota, has way more comfort, has 3x the power and should be able to hold the 7700lbs way better than the 7series Toyota. If you pay that much and everyone tells you a Toyota never fails and you have every 1000km a major failure then it's time for something new.
Anyway, this is my personal experience with the 7series in 3.5years overlanding off the regular roads.
my 2 cents