Does this plug type have a name?

[john61ct]

yah, no

 

[john61ct]

Are you sure about that?

Or just eyeballing it? If correct, great job sleuthing

Here's the full spec of the C9/C10 connector pair, which are the same except for the polarizing notch

So is this in fact confirming the (I hereby dub thee) "Sawafuji DC" fridge connection,

is the same as the old C11/C12 standard?

 

[DaveInDenver]

So is this in fact confirming the (I hereby dub thee) "Sawafuji DC" fridge connection,

is the same as the old C11/C12 standard?

I think you may be confusing two connectors. This is the Engel DC plug that does not seem to have an IEC equivalent or otherwise. This cable you have to get from Engel/Sawafuji and usually cut the cigarette plug off. That may have been also true of older ARB fridges when they were rebadged Engels, that I can't say.



To my knowledge, and I've spent plenty of time searching too, no one has even come close to finding a standard plug that so much as shares the pin orientation to the Engel DC plug much less getting to the point of checking dimensions. I speculate that if a standard exists it would be an obscure Japanese one, but in reality it's probably a custom or proprietary connector.

The one the OP is looking to find is I believe from a current ARB fridge. It's possible it's the IEC C11 as @Herbie as found. It at least looks similar.

 

[OldNomad]

For you guys converting these to Anderson plugs how are you pre-cooling the fridge from home 110V? Or are you not doing that?

110 the night before, 110 or cig socket in the car. anderson plug to my homemade solar generator in camp or my solar in my camper.

 

[OldNomad]

Follow up, which might give insight as to why some folks had trouble identifying the plug:
"The C11/C12 have since been discontinued and are currently not on the IEC 60320 set of standards. "

That will make it harder to find alternate sources for cabling.

This is the answer i've been looking for. Thank you.

 

[john61ct]

This is the Engel DC plug that does not seem to have an IEC equivalent or otherwise. This cable you have to get from Engel/Sawafuji and usually cut the cigarette plug off.

OK, so Sawafuji manufactured separate proprietary plug designs for at least two fridge manufacturers.

Maybe an explicit part of their package of offerings to OEMs to ensure good profits.

So the names could be "Engel DC plug" and "ARB DC plug", with years range added as needed for when they changed.

What a clusterfvk

 

[DaveInDenver]

OK, so Sawafuji manufactured separate proprietary plug designs for at least two fridge manufacturers.

Maybe an explicit part of their package of offerings to OEMs to ensure good profits.

So the names could be "Engel DC plug" and "ARB DC plug", with years range added as needed for when they changed.

What a clusterfvk

Engel is Sawafuji, same company. Engel is their brand name.

https://www.sawafuji.co.jp/en/products/

The 3-prong DC plug is for Engels that generally look like this.



The original ARB.



Or Norcold like this.



With a rear panel that appears like this.

The "Engel Style"

Which is unobtanium from a source other than the OEM.




The Charlie Foxtrot is with respect to ARB. The early ARBs were Engels but I think they are Waeco/Dometic now. I think Norcold may have changed, too. No idea there.

The newer (current?) ARB rear panel looks like this.



The "Waeco Style"



The Waeco may be an IEC C11 but may not be confirmed. To my knowledge ARB has not gone off in the weeds and made their own standard at least.

 

[john61ct]

Engel is Sawafuji, same company. Engel is their brand name.

Wow, good to know.

I know in the old days was a lot more efficient than the Danfoss-style tech, apparently no longer as true.

But their rep for robust reliability and longevity is afaic still unmatched.

Pretty sure Dometic has not (yet) bought ARB, they switched to Secop (Danfoss) when they stopped using Sawafuji. Not sure if that was at the same time they stopped just rebadging Engels.

Be great if anyone else knows - Norcold also no longer uses Sawafuji at all? I know some are Secop. They are owned by Thetford, private equity. . .

Can't really call IEC C11 a standard anymore, not just "legally" but in reality, if there aren't any other suppliers.

 

[67cj5]

I remember those Blue ARB's "ENGELS" and around 2008/09 ARB produced the own Design built by Waeco Dometic, The Blue and Grey ARB's with the Danfos/ Secop Compressors are a better design and use Less Power, But regardless of what new innovations in fridge design come on the market The name ENGEL is the brand much like Toyota opened up Outback Australia to the general public in the late 1968's early 1970's, and the only true Rival for the top spot is ARB, Both brands are as good as each other, In the same way as Chevy and Fords have been since before I was born, I own 2 ARB's and I love em but I would be just as proud to own an ENGEL and I bought the ARB's at the time because they work better for everyday living with having duel zones and set and forget electronics and the more modern design, ?

I am still going to buy an Engel just because I like em and they were part of my youth growing up back home.

Here's the Type's of Engel Plugs from the past to present day.