Downsizing To A Jeep......

Judoka

Learning To Live
We weren't ever not friends, just a difference of opinion. I have been driving Jeeps since 1976, and while I like some of my creature comforts, I often times feel a Jeep isn't really a Jeep any longer. Now my '02 Dodge Diesel is a truck for sure. To each his own, I guess my point is, not everyone wants to drive their Jeep at 80mph down the freeway, or are worried about that someone will think them a wimp if their Jeep doesn't go 0 to 60 in 5 seconds. I will be holding on to my '10, I really wasn't impressed enough with any of the 3.6l Jeeps I drove, I guess I might notice more of an improvement if I were a 4 door guy, but I'm not. For the record, the guy that sold me my latest Jeep didn't know a damn thing about them other than what was in the brochure and on the sticker.

Hahaha! MY friend I see that all the time! I am amazed how many people tell me that they never knew half of the things that i show them on thier vehicles. It is sad that these things sell themselves, because few sales people know anything about them. I am asked to demonstrate some function to a potential Jeep buyer at least a dozen times every day!
 

NMRubicon

Observer
Lucky for most of the salesman they do sell themselves. I appreciate the few who do know what a Jeep is about.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
My salesman thought a locker was what you put your gun in. He said Tuffy sold one and they could install it.
 

Judoka

Learning To Live
HAha! I love it! The funny thing is that Chrysler actually gives us delivery checklists of features we need to demonstrate to the customer before they take delivery of the vehicle. The sad thing is that most sales people just have the customer sign it and dont know how to to any more than set the clock on the radio! But, I guess I dont really mind if I am being selfish, because I get at least 4-5 sales each month simply because customers were not impressed with the inability of another salesman to answer specific questions. Being here in Prescott AZ, an Overlanding "Mecca" if you will, the clients buying the Wrangler are very educated, and wish to be assured of thier choice more than anything, so if I dont know at least as much as they do, we will lose thier business. I must say, I think it should be that way everywhere.
At least salesman are not telling people that the lockers are in the gymnasium I guess!
 

brandonhedberg

Adventurer
I have a JKU Rubicon for sale, so anything good I could say will definitely be seen as biased...

The 3.8L engine, manual transmission, and drivetrain are sound and dependable (reliable). The off road capability and maneuverability are best in class. Add the removable top and doors into the equation and it overcomes some of truck appeal. Seats fold down providing mini-truck bed capacity. If you plan to tow distances often at interstate speeds, the JKU (either 3.8 or 3.6) isn't for you. However, I found one great benefit to towing (2300 lb trailer) slow during a recent trip in Colorado. The scenery is incredible and you have more time to enjoy it! Seriously.

I have a 2007 JK Unlimited Rubicon for sale. Might fit your budget and your needs. Taking offers.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/for...n-Shrockworks?highlight=2007+wrangler+rubicon

Thanks for your consideration.
 

brandonhedberg

Adventurer
2007-2014 JK Rubicons have Dana 44 axles with e lockers front and rear. Also, Rubicons come with an electronic disconnecting front sway bar. They have a 4:1 ratio low range too.
 

ZMagic97

Explorer
What axles are under the Jeeps?

What does the Rubicon package consist of?

Rubicons have Dana 44's front and rear and 4:10 gears. Non-Rubicons have a 44 in the rear and a 30 in the front, not 4:10s.

Rubicons only also have front and rear electronic lockers and an electric auto front sway bar.

Also, the Rubicon os the only model with the 4:1 transfer case.

If you get a Rubicon with a 6 speed 3.8L, you can run 35's and a 3-4" lift without needing new gears or axles. I have been running this set-up for nearly 35,000 miles. I came home yesterday on the freeway from a camping trip in nothern Arizona, and a part of the freeway incleanes about 1700ft in under 7 miles. I have consistanly climbed it at 60-70MPH with no issues.

Hope this info helps.
 

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
Rubicons have Dana 44's front and rear and 4:10 gears. Non-Rubicons have a 44 in the rear and a 30 in the front, not 4:10s.

Rubicons only also have front and rear electronic lockers and an electric auto front sway bar.

Also, the Rubicon os the only model with the 4:1 transfer case.

If you get a Rubicon with a 6 speed 3.8L, you can run 35's and a 3-4" lift without needing new gears or axles. I have been running this set-up for nearly 35,000 miles. I came home yesterday on the freeway from a camping trip in nothern Arizona, and a part of the freeway incleanes about 1700ft in under 7 miles. I have consistanly climbed it at 60-70MPH with no issues.

Hope this info helps.

Good luck with those stock gears at 9-10k feet driving up the passes.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
Good luck with those stock gears at 9-10k feet driving up the passes.

I agree.
With 35s I'd want 4.88 gears for a manual. 4.56 with the Pentastar.
The stock 4.10s in the Pentastar are good for 33s though. The 3.8 needs a regear no matter what.
 

NMRubicon

Observer
With the stock Rubicon tires, I have no issues driving at 9500-10500' with an automatic and stock 4.10 gears. I'm up there almost every weekend looking for elk.
 

Judoka

Learning To Live
Rubicons have Dana 44's front and rear and 4:10 gears. Non-Rubicons have a 44 in the rear and a 30 in the front, not 4:10s.

Rubicons only also have front and rear electronic lockers and an electric auto front sway bar.

Also, the Rubicon os the only model with the 4:1 transfer case.

If you get a Rubicon with a 6 speed 3.8L, you can run 35's and a 3-4" lift without needing new gears or axles. I have been running this set-up for nearly 35,000 miles. I came home yesterday on the freeway from a camping trip in nothern Arizona, and a part of the freeway incleanes about 1700ft in under 7 miles. I have consistanly climbed it at 60-70MPH with no issues.

Hope this info helps.

The above info is not ENTIRELY true. 4:10 gears are STANDARD on Rubicon modles with MANUAL transmissions, but AUTOMATIC models come STANDARD wit 3:73 gears. 4:10 gear ratio are optional in auto. Add the 4:10 transfer case, electronic lockers front and back, electronic front sway bar disconnect and Dana 44 HD axles and you have the mechanical differences covered. After that everything else id esthetics.
 

jeep-N-montero

Expedition Leader
With the stock Rubicon tires, I have no issues driving at 9500-10500' with an automatic and stock 4.10 gears. I'm up there almost every weekend looking for elk.

Yes, we were referring to running 35's. And don't even get me thinking about elk, it's an itch I can't scratch until Oct 5th.
 

NMRubicon

Observer
I have to wait until November 23! I try to get up in the hills and scout every weekend. I do have an archery deer tag as well, that opens 1 September.
 

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