E350 Adventurer 19rd X Series???

[FreedomTraveler]

It looks like Fraserway / ALP is finally getting serious about selling the 19rd. ( In the USA. )

There is a picture at the show showing a $175,000 price. If this is CAD that would be about $127,000 USD

No listing for this yet on Fraserway's website? Not much info beyond what they are sharing on You Tube, Instagram, etc...

Fraserway RV on Instagram: "Got big adventure plans this Fall? This rig is ready to take you there. This is the Adventurer 19RD X Series—built tough, lifted high, and ready to roll wherever your next adventure takes you. 🚐💥 We’ve got an inside tour

27 likes, 0 comments - fraserwayrv on October 16, 2024: "Got big adventure plans this Fall? This rig is ready to take you there. This is the Adventurer 19RD X Series—built tough, lifted high, and ready to roll wherever your next adventure takes you. 🚐💥 We’ve got an inside tour coming soon (you...

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Brady Erixon on Instagram: "We are ecstatic to be down at the Snowbird RV Show in Abbotsford in partnership with @fraserwayrv. Introducing the Adventurer 19RD X Series. These will be available as factory units with full financing packages nationwide

111 likes, 21 comments - clydesdalevans on September 21, 2024: "We are ecstatic to be down at the Snowbird RV Show in Abbotsford in partnership with @fraserwayrv. Introducing the Adventurer 19RD X Series. These will be available as factory units with full financing packages nationwide...

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Questions that I hope get answered;

-If they are going to sell directly into the US market? Can you buy and pickup from Yakima WA. to avoid the hassle of going thru US CBP?

-Who is doing the 4x4 Conversion? In house, one of the companies in Oregon?

Any members near Abbotsford B.C. that can shed some light?

It's time to travel. Be safe, not scared.

 

[Atl-atl]

Looks like Clydesdale Vans is the company behind this. They use factory 2005+ super duty front axles and suspension. So its coil springs with super beefy control arms. Will ride/handle like ******** and wont flex at all offroad.

 

[Steve_382]

Looks like they basically copied the Quigley 4x4 conversion. I like the overall size, and the rear dinette is converted to a bed. Here is a link to the video.

 

[b. rock]

IIRC from when I was looking at these, they are have the option for 4 season insulation too. Seemed like a good package and I liked the floorplan better than the Thor.

 

[Atl-atl]

IIRC from when I was looking at these, they are have the option for 4 season insulation too. Seemed like a good package and I liked the floorplan better than the Thor.

As a Thor 19G owner I have to agree the layout looks better on the 19RD. The rear dinette has more room and windows on all 3 sides is a really cool feature. My only concern would be driver seat leg room. Econolines are already known for the seats not scooting very far back or being able to recline and this setup looks extremely restrictive for the driver with a solid wall behind.

Additionally the 19RD looks to have significantly more exterior storage which I am jealous of and 4 season insulation would be nice too.

 

[RVflyfish]

Atl-Atl, are you sure it won’t ride/handle/flex well? I talked to Clydesdale recently and they seem to really know their stuff. Like to the point I’d drive from California to BC if they were still doing the TTB 4wd conversions they used to do.

 

[Atl-atl]

Atl-Atl, are you sure it won’t ride/handle/flex well? I talked to Clydesdale recently and they seem to really know their stuff. Like to the point I’d drive from California to BC if they were still doing the TTB 4wd conversions they used to do.I

I guess it depends on what you want/expect from it. They are using the same front end as a modern Ford Super Duty. Non-Tremor Super Dutys and also GM/Dodge 3/4 and 1 ton trucks (that are not the Power Wagon which have different control arms and flex really well) are built to carry tons of payload and tow tens of thousands of pounds. Their suspension is built to be stiff so the truck can handle that work. They are not built for a nice ride or to be flexy offroad. This is not news. The control arms in particular are enormous and stiff and really only work vertically. Dont be fooled by the fact that they use coil springs. If you have the ability to find an F250 or F350 and drive it offroad, you'll get a decent idea of what Im talking about. You can also just google it and see what people have to say. Also, dont be fooled by the company selling the product telling you that it does exactly what you want it to do.

If you happen to be in the Southwest any time soon you are welcome to drive/look at my Ujoint rig.

 

[RVflyfish]

Also, dont be fooled by the company selling the product telling you that it does exactly what you want it to do.

👍🏼 Sage advice in many situations.

 

[86scotty]

Looks like they basically copied the Quigley 4x4 conversion.

They've been in business since 1980. 'Copied' is a bit of a stretch. If you look back at old Ambos and mining vehicles from long long ago lots of them are Clydesdales.

 

[Steve_382]

OK, an early copy. Quigley probably copied from the F350. We all stand on the shoulders of those who came before us.

Since the mid 1960’s, Quigley has been refining its craft. First selling trucks and vans, then customizing them and beginning in 1974, building a new type of vehicle – the Quigley 4×4.

 

[b. rock]

Quigley uses a short arm 4-link, not a radius arm setup like Quadvan and Clydesdale currently use. Timberline and CCV are in the 4-link camp too.

I've wheel the piss out of radius arm setups that didn't flex as well as a long arm 3 or 4 link. Good tires and line choice is more important than total flex. And maybe lockers. The frame and body on my leaf spring 4x4 EB will flex so much in a cross axle situation that the dome light comes on. Unless the c&c fame is a lot stiffer, I would be worried about the rigidity of that box if you wheel it hard. Most people are buying these for snow/sand travel, and low to mild trails, where any setup is going to work fine. Could always wrist one of the radius arms too, if people are still doing that (or just softer bushings).

When an Ekko is starting at $215k, the price on this seems fairly reasonable. Could always get a plan version and add your own 4x4 too, it'd be about the same price.

I wonder if you can figure out how to store 2 mtb's in that upper bunk...

 

[klahanie]

IIRC from when I was looking at these, they are have the option for 4 season insulation too. Seemed like a good package and I liked the floorplan better than the Thor.

Pretty sure they are all "4 Season". I've never seen that as an option. That would be insulated body walls and internal tanks. Can't remember if they're dual pane windows or not. Prob not.

Does make the underside nice and clean and leaves room for something at the rear under.

As a Thor 19G owner I have to agree the layout looks better on the 19RD. The rear dinette has more room and windows on all 3 sides is a really cool feature. My only concern would be driver seat leg room. Econolines are already known for the seats not scooting very far back or being able to recline and this setup looks extremely restrictive for the driver with a solid wall behind.

The dinette is sweet. Agreed with the cab seating. It is what it is and a lot of retires have been dealing with it but doesn't compare well to a SD for eg.
(This first pic from Fraserway's site)

Seat fully forward fwiw

I wonder if you can figure out how to store 2 mtb's in that upper bunk...

my measurements: just under 57" deep, 24" mattress to ceiling,. didn't measure width but based on the dinette area sb ~85"



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We looked closely at this model. Sales guy (Fraserway, Abby) said they had recently started selling new units also, rather than only ex-rental. So maybe 2023 or 2024 years (you have to watch the year designation as usually doesn't match chassis build date).

Did say they sell "a lot" to USA customers. Pretty sure they'd handle all the arrangements. (these would prob have been used units but they are rarely older than a few years).

We would have contracted Clydesdale for the 4x4. Because they've done a bunch and are "local" 4hrs away from us.

As for the 19RD, it's a nice little unit. Great footprint size, has a good 24x36" wet bath shower, rear dinette etc. Fit and finish, not too bad.

However, we wanted to carry a bunch of stuff and the tag says only 4,200 GFAWR, 6,084GRAWR, 10,050 GVWR. SB OK as 2wd but converted - for us anyway - I wasn't keen. Wanted a tad more room plus not lovin' the cab comfort for xcountry trips. Wasn't sure about dog etc.

But if we weren't so fussy, could be a good RV solution.

HTH someone.

 

[klahanie]

On reflection ... I wonder if the 4x4 conversion will be a sticking point for export ?

The RV chassis I saw all had a CDN FMVSS original vin sticker on the door jamb. The bodies are built in WA then the completed vehicles are sold in Canada.

Used export would be ok but if the chassis was not also avail in USA, I'm not sure if that would be an issue. For the CDN market it would be fine.

Question to ask is are the certified after conversion.