BritKLR
Kapitis Indagatoris
That brings back memories! We’re camped in those lots before when Vail and Eisenhower passes get closed due to conditions. I felt sorry for all those people sleeping in their cars during one blizzard. Cool video!
E350 Chinook Build
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willywalderbeast
Master of None
Up in Idaho detaching ourselves from society. Had some van troubles and had to pull the motor out in Denver to replace the heads. Waiting to see if the Canadian border will open in time for us to get up to Alaska.
another_mike
Adventurer
Awesome shot! what happened with the heads? It’s not often you see a V10 have issues...
Burlydirtyhippy
Chambon
If you can get your hands on the Idaho hot springs guide by Doug Roloff,,, keep you busy for awhile, lots of epic spots
willywalderbeast
Master of None
She spit two spark plugs, a known problem on all 2v triton motors. I fixed it with the best kit on the market (cal-van insert) and it spit on of the inserts out. I have a buddy Justin in Denver with an amazing Volvo specially shop “Baker Garage” , he was a Ford master mechanic for years and personally has a 4x4 E350 and he is a authorized U-Joint installer. I had him pull the motor, install new head so I’ll never have another popped spark plug ever, and change ANYTHING he saw that was original and change ANYTHING worth changing when we were in there. Motor got all new chains, guides, gears, etc. New hoses, alternator, belts, tensioner, etc. Although it was a TON of money, she should be good to go for a loooong while.
I found one copy online, used $125! Worth it?
willywalderbeast
Master of None
Some pics of the rig from the last couple months.
Burlydirtyhippy
Chambon
I found one copy online, used $125! Worth it?
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yikes! I would mail you our copy if I had access to it. We were there in 2016, passed through Boise to do laundry. Next door was an outdoors shop with the newly released hot springs guide. Didnt really have Idaho on the radar and It ended up a highlight of the trip. We found some cool camp spots and hot springs, that made for a memorable trip.
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yikes! I would mail you our copy if I had access to it. We were there in 2016, passed through Boise to do laundry. Next door was an outdoors shop with the newly released hot springs guide. Didnt really have Idaho on the radar and It ended up a highlight of the trip. We found some cool camp spots and hot springs, that made for a memorable trip.
another_mike
Adventurer
eh, thats what I was afraid of. I have a 2006 v10 with more threads, but these heads have done it too. I just did my spark plugs like two months ago and torqued them higher than what the service manual calls for. Really hoping I don't spit one either.
willywalderbeast
Master of None
Torquing them higher is not going to help and might actually be worse. I talked to my buddy and he said “DONT over torque, and to check the torque often on them to help mitigate the issue”
It actually did really good. Traction wasn’t the issue, steering and sliding was. If you stayed in the ruts you were fine. If you had to get out of the ruts (to help pull out another vehicle) you would slide off the road into the ditch. Better then sliding the other side with 40ft drops and switchbacks! We camped up this valley 14miles down a dirt road. Woke up to rain and when it rains this red clay becomes slick as ********. My buddy got stuck a few time and I only got stuck trying to get him out. I winched out to a near by tree and was good the rest of the way. We used recovery boards to get him unstuck multiple times.
another_mike
Adventurer
That actually goes against all the current Ford Techs ive talked to. while I don't take my van to the dealer to be serviced, I do have to take some of our fleet vehicles there (we have about 3000 fords). Torque spec is 10ft lbs per my service manual.. People have tested the threads on these heads and found they won't pull out til over 90ft lbs. I don't know anyone who is going to pull the dog house and coils to check the torque often. I found its a common consensus to over torque these plugs past the service manual's requirements... 10ftlbs is just way too low.
Obviously everyone is free to do what they want. YMMV (literally lol)
willywalderbeast
Master of None
A couple thing here:
Ok well I agree 10ftlbs is too low. With all the information I’ve searched through and from the consensus of people I’ve talked to says to touque it between 20-25ftlbs. And since it’s a known problem, regularly checking them, regardless how difficult/impractical that is, seems to be the only good option in my opinion to trying to prevent this problem. And by checking them often, and by often I mean maybe 30k miles, could possible help prevent this. I don’t think 1-2hrs every 30k miles is that inconvenient.
Another thing to talk about is that I don’t believe it’s a over torquing issue necessarily, but it might be playing a part in it. The general problem has to do with the aluminum threads on the head, which after time, get weak. So to say “the plugs won’t pull out till 90ftlbs” really means nothing in this case. And even more, could mean that those guys at the deal servicing your fleet who are openly saying they’re over torquing them, could be causing some factor to why this problem is a common one.
Again like you said, everyone should do what they think is right.
another_mike
Adventurer
Sounds like we are in agreement here, just using different terminology. Since the factory spec is 10ft lbs.. I consider anything over that "overtorquing". Increasing the spec by double definitely fits that definition to me... But im the kind of guy that actually uses a torque wrench, so I deal in absolutes lol.
I torqued mine between 20-25ft lbs also.
I didn't really plan on checking mine at 30k.. (might even sell the van before I get 30k on them).. but I figure id simply replace the plugs at 50k.
willywalderbeast
Master of None
Ah I just assumed when I heard 90ftlbs as the limit, you were torquing them at 60ftlbs of torque or something haha.
I just did the math on mine and I believe these plugs had 52k on them. Previous owner gave me a bunch of old receipts including one for spark plugs from Ford. So your correct if you replace stuff on the early side it’s probably fine to not re-torque. If your one to “let them ride” maybe re-torquing once or twice could help.
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