I see that Michelle responded and EC is clearly the source of the best info.
I am a little confused by your post in a couple areas though.
The chassis used for the $399K 2020 FX and EXP is not the Fuso 4wd FG (4wd diesel not available anymore in the US), it is a gasoline 2WD truck that is converted to 4wd by EC with very extensive mods including a new suspension and a completely new drivetrain past the transmission along with other mods. Since the price is usually shown for a complete vehicle with the EXP and FX, I don’t know if EC shows a price for the truck vs the camper on these vehicles. The price of the truck chassis for the 2020s will be significantly higher than the price of the truck delivered to EC due to all the mods.
In terms of the cabins, the EXP is 14 ft long and the EXD is 10 ft and there are significant differences in the content with the EXP having a fixed bed and a dining area and the EXD having a combo dining/bed area along with other content differences. Not sure how the cost of the two compare but the materials and labor for construction of the EXP cabin must be significantly higher than the EXD.
Bottom line, I think only EC can come up with accurate numbers for the items you are attempting to estimate...
Hi Greg,
Agreed that Michelle is the best source of info. She's quicker with basic info than the rest of the sales team is.
You're right about the FX being based on the new V8/Allison, thanks for the heads up on this. I seem to have gotten confused when looking at the FX page, since it says;
| Base Chassis | Mitsubishi Fuso 4×4 |
I took that to mean they still had some FG's left over, but Omega is the last on the FG 4x4 chassis($265k, so a $135k price jump to the new FX/EXP). Seems the FX page is outdated, there's no info about the V8/Allison, trick Dynatrac/Hero setup, etc, like there is on the EXP page. And you're also correct about the FX/EXP cabins being longer, fixed rear bed, and possibly thicker wall panels, etc than the EXD, however there's no info about wall thickness on the EXD page. I was only trying to explain to Adam88 that the $185k EXD cabin/subframe/kinetic seemed to make more sense than $125k, if we worked backwards from the price of a new Fuso-based chassis/cabin. But as you point out, comparing oranges to grapefruits maybe.
Michelle,
I think the above confusion translates into some questions and constructive suggestions to pass along;
--Us "overland truck" nerds want and expect more info on your site. We're comparing your product to AdventureTrucks/GXV, Earthroamer, Blissmobil, Unidan, XP, custom Total Composites, etc etc. Give us the goods about what makes yours yours, and uniquely class-leading in your eyes. The EXP page has a wealth of info, but if the FX is basically the same as the EXP (just a fixed roof vs lifting), why doesn't the FX page talk about the new V8/Allison, Dynatrac/Hero, all the trick stuff? Seems like a 10minute simple cut/paste to me via WordPress.
--EXD; any reason base pricing isn't already listed on the page? Why aren't there more specifics about the entire setup like the EXP page has, like cabin wall thickness, comfort, livability, systems (are you still using Mastervolt, Victron Energy, ?)? Also, notes about going with a gas truck and having an isolated diesel tank for the house components (cooktop, air/water heater, etc), vs having a diesel truck with single fuel source (diesel) for the house components. What does Basic or Luxury mean--is that in regards to purchasing a new truck along with the EXD cabin?
The first EXD was mostly hand made. Since then, we've put all components through a tooling process, into our CAD system, made sure we have a sustainable supply chain, made sure we met the build specs from the manufacturers, created a back end system so we can fully support our customers and made the EXD a true EarthCruiser production vehicle. This is different from our initial plan to make a flatbed version which would have created issues with weights and driving habits. We will be re-launching the EXD with better information and a greatly updated web page. We will supply completed EXDs on RAMs, Fords and Chevys . We will be selling the EXD 'house' unit for export for Ivecos, Ford transits, etc. Pricing does start at $185,000 but it's January and we will be looking at a price increase as all of our costs have gone up. In the meantime, have a look at the the photos Lance posted as they show just how fabulous the EXD is.
Good to hear on the better info/greatly updated EXD web page.
What I hear you saying is that while pricing has already increased from $125k (April 2019) to $185k (Dec 2019), pricing will increase again in early 2020? Any hint as to the new 2020 pricing?
How would you compare your EXD at $185k< + $Truck, to AdventureTrucks/GXV's AT cabin/truck combo at $198k-248k(base-w/optionpkg)?
Keep building cool rigs!
(Better than AdventureTrucks though, still haven't heard from them).