F350 Order specifically for Supertramp Camper. Opinions??

SimplyAnAdventure

Well-known member
Hello all,

We've been on a long quest for the perfect vehicle to transport us on our adventures around the country. We've had 2 Power Wagons, 4 Door Jeeps, A Tacoma that had one of the first GFC's and than wore a Alu Cab Khaya before being sold as a package. Right now we're rocking a Rav4 Adventure with a 3rd Gen iKamper Mini and Falken Wildpeaks.... To cut my ramblings short we aren't new to the game but we would like something that will work for the long-ish term that can be livable for a few weeks to a couple months at a time. After a couple years of climbing in and out of every camper we could find at various Expo's and watching what seems like every YouTube video on the subject we have come to the conclusion that a SuperTramp and a Ford Tremor might be the right setup for us. We actually looked exhaustively at OEV campers and just found that unless going flatbed/ camper (which was cost prohibitive for us) there's just not much storage in a OEV Backcountry.

On to my question, I am planning on placing an order with Ford this week, in hopes I can get the truck this year spec'd as follows, for you experts out there can you think of something that I am missing? or specifically should or should not opt for?

Ford F350, 7.3L Gas Crew Cab 6.75ft Bed
Tremor Off Road package (after lifting countless vehicles I want to just leave this alone and retain all factory options and geometry)
Sport Package, this is purely for looks, no chrome.
XLT Premium Package, comes with some nice upgrades. This has BLIS monitoring which when looking at doing a flatbed seemed to be a big no no.
360 Degree Camera package WITHOUT Center Mounted Stop Lamp Camera as a full time truck camper that camera seems like it would be in a bad place, Planning on using a camera source relocation kit to move the tailgate camera to the camper.
Front and rear mud flaps, and wheel well liners.
Spray in bed liner.
Exterior backup alarm, again full time camper truck this just seems like a benefit in crowded national parks.
Dual alternators and batteries. Ford told me if I opt for the factory installed Winch they won't start the build so this allows me to add it myself later.
Cloth 40/ Console/ 40 Seats, Seeing the little Dometic Console fridge, seems like that might be handy to keep a few drinks and snack in.
Carpet Delete!! Owned a Cummins with Vinyl flooring, every truck on earth should be built this way if you ask me.
Upfitter switches, had a lot of lights on my Taco, not sure if I will on this one but this should make it easier.

That's it. Any glaring omissions or un-necessary items you see on there? To be honest it seems just about like my dream truck for this kind of build, I can't imagine wanting anything else or getting rid of something but if it makes for a more useable vehicle i'm all ears.

Finnally the SuperTramp camper. Only options I was thinking were as follows.

1500W inverter
A second 100AH LiFePO battery
L-Track on both sides.
The Eco Plus Combi heater, we don't often use campgrounds, but we certainly do occasionally and this just allows heat from 120V 20A outlet to save propane.

My wife works full remote so the battery and inverter should be all we need to power a starlink and her laptop.

Any opinions of the Supertramp would be greatly appreciated, we already booked a flight to fly out to Denver to see one in person.

That's it, please give us any and all contructive critisism. This is a big purchase and we want it to be right.

We are headed for Tuktoyuktuk in August Through the end of Sept and would love for this to be our vehicle, though I really doubt everything thing will be done, but you never know!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you all in advance!

-SAA
 

Macfly

Active member
Sounds like an awesome package, excited to hear how you get on with it.

I didn't go Tremor because I'd always planned doing the full Carli lift kit as it's so well reviewed, so I got a simple Lariat 4x4 6.75" bed, and am doing a Bowens/Hallmark combo on it.
 

carterd

Active member
Sounds like a great rig, I would consider the LED marker lights ($95) and a block heater ($100). If you are spending $70K on a truck, these are cheap options that may be useful. The Tremor comes standard with the 4.3 ratio locking differential, which pairs well with the 35" tire. You could probably squeeze some more highway mpg with the 3.73 option, bit this has drawbacks off-road and with a heavy payload. If you don't like the backup alarm, you could also use the circuit for an auxiliary reverse light. Too bad the Warn winch is creating delays. Although is is very pricey ($3,995), it is a good winch and there are benefits to the high level of integration and factory warranty.
 

Fueggia

Selkman
Looks like great set up!
We have been using the Ram 3500 with the Supertramp camper for over a year... have fine tuned both and would be happy to share any details directly with you ...in the meantime read my early review here and check out all the posts below. PM me for more especially on the configuration for using your starling... there is a 12v converter box now... no need to run your inverter!.
You will love this set up!!!
Ex Portal:

IG: @wanderinglyle
FB: Supertramp Owners Group
 

SimplyAnAdventure

Well-known member
Hello all!!

Thank you so much for all the awesome feedback! I truly took it to heart before placing the final order and I think we've got exactly what we need! Now 6 months wait and I can drive it...

The truck I picked out has most of the options discussed above that simply come with the packages. The Sport package in addition to everything blacked out has all LED lights, blinkers, ext and the XLT Premium has the remote start and probably more safety features than I really need. But TBH living on the East Coast we do a lot of cross country driving so good road manners is probably just as important as off-road prowess.

We also placed the final order and put down the 20% deposit on the Supertramp camper this morning. We opted for the following options:

L-Track on both side panels, but no awnings, or Molle panel.
1500W AC Inverter, this may prove unnecessary but I'd rather have it onboard and installed and ready to go.
A second, so 2 in total 100Ah Battle Born batteries.
Truma Combi Eco Plus (lets you heat off of 20A power, I think this will actually prove useful at times)
Lagun Table, To be honest I think for the price this should come standard, I mean it's a full camper shouldn't it include a table? Not sure why this once costs extra.
Kitchenette L Track, my wife wanted this to hang our utensils bag from.

That's it, not to heavy optioned but I think everything we would need to make this a home for a month or two without being uncomfortable. We are actually flying out next month to check them out in person, but as of now we even finalized colors and lightening choices.

Thus far Supertramp has been awesome to work with, and more importantly as I've been shown some of the details in there product i'm simply blown away. They are really making a quality prodcut I can't wait to see the finished result. Should be ready in November...

Thank you all for your help and I do hope to see more Supertramp threads pop up, I did read the above posted thread when I was originally looking into them, seems to be just about the only info available besides the promotional stuff and the occasional YouTube video posted from Expo events.

Now we wait.

-SAA
 

Todd780

OverCamper
Did you get the ProPower Onboard generator to help power the camper while off grid?

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SimplyAnAdventure

Well-known member
Did you get the ProPower Onboard generator to help power the camper while off grid?

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I did not, and I'll tell you my reasoning. Please feel free to change my mind, as I can certainly still add it.

First off adding the 2K power eliminates the rear underseat/ floor storage. Having lived out of a truck for a while more storage is always better. Not sure what I will stick down there but something obviously not needed often. Secondly and more important it eliminates the 400W outlet in the truck cab. My wife works remote full time and in the past we actually had a small plug in inverter so she could plug in her laptop. While we could still do this I plan on having a full time platform in the truck for her (One of the Ram mount solutions) and this outlet will make plugging in her workstation painless and clean.

Finally the 2K power outlet actually doesn't offer very much help to the camper in terms of keeping it supported off-grid. 2000W is only 1600W at continuous load (80%) and 1600W divided by 120V is only 13.33 Amps worth of power available to charge the truck. I ordered the truck with dual batteries and dual alternators (that put out 410 Amps) and the camper has an onboard DC/DC charger and is/ will be wired to accept 30 Amps when the truck is running. So simply running the truck charges at 30A, also the camper has 300W of solar on the roof to fill the batteries when the truck isn't running. The 2K power seems useful to run something like a chop saw or something like that on the move but I can't see the benefit it could offer in an off-grid solution, it's definitely less powerful than just idling the truck with the DC/DC charger operating. I did opt for a 1500W inverter inside the camper to power household items if needed. Most everything is DC anyway, but you never know!

Thoughts? Am I missing something?

-SAA
 

Todd780

OverCamper
I did not, and I'll tell you my reasoning. Please feel free to change my mind, as I can certainly still add it.

First off adding the 2K power eliminates the rear underseat/ floor storage. Having lived out of a truck for a while more storage is always better. Not sure what I will stick down there but something obviously not needed often. Secondly and more important it eliminates the 400W outlet in the truck cab. My wife works remote full time and in the past we actually had a small plug in inverter so she could plug in her laptop. While we could still do this I plan on having a full time platform in the truck for her (One of the Ram mount solutions) and this outlet will make plugging in her workstation painless and clean.

Finally the 2K power outlet actually doesn't offer very much help to the camper in terms of keeping it supported off-grid. 2000W is only 1600W at continuous load (80%) and 1600W divided by 120V is only 13.33 Amps worth of power available to charge the truck. I ordered the truck with dual batteries and dual alternators (that put out 410 Amps) and the camper has an onboard DC/DC charger and is/ will be wired to accept 30 Amps when the truck is running. So simply running the truck charges at 30A, also the camper has 300W of solar on the roof to fill the batteries when the truck isn't running. The 2K power seems useful to run something like a chop saw or something like that on the move but I can't see the benefit it could offer in an off-grid solution, it's definitely less powerful than just idling the truck with the DC/DC charger operating. I did opt for a 1500W inverter inside the camper to power household items if needed. Most everything is DC anyway, but you never know!

Thoughts? Am I missing something?

-SAA
Nope makes sense to me. Just wasn't sure if you were aware of the option.

I skipped ProPower as well. I chose to have under seat storage as well and not take the payload hit. We stay at places that offer shore power. So, ProPower would've only been required for the odd time we see an unpowered site we liked.

Sounds like an amazing truck. Make it in Stone Grey and that's pretty much my dream truck you're building.

I think my only upgrade would be swapping out the halogen headlights for LED and adding the tailgate step.

Ford Halogens suck. It surprises me it wouldn't be part of the XLT Premium pkg since on the F150 the 302a pkg on the XLT's gets LED's.
 

carleton

Active member
I did not, and I'll tell you my reasoning. Please feel free to change my mind, as I can certainly still add it.

First off adding the 2K power eliminates the rear underseat/ floor storage. Having lived out of a truck for a while more storage is always better. Not sure what I will stick down there but something obviously not needed often. Secondly and more important it eliminates the 400W outlet in the truck cab. My wife works remote full time and in the past we actually had a small plug in inverter so she could plug in her laptop. While we could still do this I plan on having a full time platform in the truck for her (One of the Ram mount solutions) and this outlet will make plugging in her workstation painless and clean.

Finally the 2K power outlet actually doesn't offer very much help to the camper in terms of keeping it supported off-grid. 2000W is only 1600W at continuous load (80%) and 1600W divided by 120V is only 13.33 Amps worth of power available to charge the truck. I ordered the truck with dual batteries and dual alternators (that put out 410 Amps) and the camper has an onboard DC/DC charger and is/ will be wired to accept 30 Amps when the truck is running. So simply running the truck charges at 30A, also the camper has 300W of solar on the roof to fill the batteries when the truck isn't running. The 2K power seems useful to run something like a chop saw or something like that on the move but I can't see the benefit it could offer in an off-grid solution, it's definitely less powerful than just idling the truck with the DC/DC charger operating. I did opt for a 1500W inverter inside the camper to power household items if needed. Most everything is DC anyway, but you never know!

Thoughts? Am I missing something?

-SAA

Simplicity is king, so I think your logic & use case is pretty sound.

However, I'm pretty sure that 13.33 Amps @ 120v is not equal to 13.33 Amps @ 12v.

With 1600W you could be charging at 100amps via the ProPower using something like this:
Go Power RV Converter and Smart Battery Charger - 12V - 100 Amp Go Power RV Converters 34266912 (etrailer.com)

I'll let the electricity guys weigh in if I'm wrong here, but that is my understanding.
 

SimplyAnAdventure

Well-known member
Simplicity is king, so I think your logic & use case is pretty sound.

However, I'm pretty sure that 13.33 Amps @ 120v is not equal to 13.33 Amps @ 12v.

With 1600W you could be charging at 100amps via the ProPower using something like this:
Go Power RV Converter and Smart Battery Charger - 12V - 100 Amp Go Power RV Converters 34266912 (etrailer.com)

I'll let the electricity guys weigh in if I'm wrong here, but that is my understanding.

You’re correct. 13.33A at 120V is more than 30A at 12V, but seeing as with a charger you’d be converting from DC to AC and than back to DC to charge the battery that is very inefficient.
 

SimplyAnAdventure

Well-known member
Nope makes sense to me. Just wasn't sure if you were aware of the option.

I skipped ProPower as well. I chose to have under seat storage as well and not take the payload hit. We stay at places that offer shore power. So, ProPower would've only been required for the odd time we see an unpowered site we liked.

Sounds like an amazing truck. Make it in Stone Grey and that's pretty much my dream truck you're building.

I think my only upgrade would be swapping out the halogen headlights for LED and adding the tailgate step.

Ford Halogens suck. It surprises me it wouldn't be part of the XLT Premium pkg since on the F150 the 302a pkg on the XLT's gets LED's.
So the whole truck has LED’s part of the Sport package so that’s covered. I ordered it in White with all badges and grill blacked out. Matches the camper, we may wrap it along with the camper down the road but we will see how it works out first. I really wanted a tailgate step, but since the camper requires removal of the tailgate I didn’t bother. If the camper was 3” shorter and I could close the tailgate that would be incredible! You’d have a porch with steps outside your camper! Sadly it’s too long for that.
 

SimplyAnAdventure

Well-known member
I mean this in the nicest possible way but... you suck. ? Beautiful truck.
Hahaha…. Thanks, I think….
Yea she’s going to be a real beauty, and what I hope is a truck that doesn’t require modifications or any farther work to be ready. As I mentioned at some point I may buy the winch kit but it bolts right in and I already have the provisions that make it possible, dual battery’s and alternators so it should just be a matter of pulling off the front and bolting it in, watching a few YouTube videos it seems pretty straightforward. I certainly would have liked that option to come installed but I guess I can’t have everything. This should be the dream setup, but its going to be funny having this on order while driving to Tuk in a Rav4. Hey at least I’ll save a small fortune on gas.

-SAA
 

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