FG cold weather starting

kerry

Expedition Leader
It got down to about 12 below zero F last night and since my FG was sitting outside my house instead of in the storage lot, I thought I'd see how well it started in cold temperatures. It was probably around 5 degrees F when I started it at mid-morning. It has summer fuel and I hadn't added any anti-gel so I thought there was some question as to whether it would start it all. After the glow plug light went off, it took about 20-25 seconds of cranking for it to fire up. Definitely more reluctant to start than it's usual firing on the first compression stroke, but it did start at that temperature without a block heater.
By comparison, my 1985 Mercedes 300TD had sat in the school parking lot overnight yesterday since I had left from school to pick up the FG at the shop. It was about the same temperature when I started it yesterday but it had not been as low a temperature the previous night. It took over a minute of cranking after double glowing the plugs for the MB to start and it had anti-gel in the fuel.
A block heater makes it much easier on your starter, but now at least I know it can start pretty close to zero without assistance.
 
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Bandicoot

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Engine glow plug and engine heater warm up switch

Kerry
Do you have the 4.9 L CR engine?
If so, at what temp do you notice the glow plug wanting to kick in prior to starting? I've never seen mine yet.
At what temp do you use the "engine warm up" switch after starting?
Living here in the sub-tropics, I've tried to get a straight answer out of Fuso about both of these matters, but they just say "why bother--you don't need them"? But if I'm down in the cold one winter, I'd like to know!
Bandicoot
 

kerry

Expedition Leader
Kerry
Do you have the 4.9 L CR engine?
If so, at what temp do you notice the glow plug wanting to kick in prior to starting? I've never seen mine yet.
At what temp do you use the "engine warm up" switch after starting?
Living here in the sub-tropics, I've tried to get a straight answer out of Fuso about both of these matters, but they just say "why bother--you don't need them"? But if I'm down in the cold one winter, I'd like to know!
Bandicoot

I've got the 3.9. I think somewhere on here is a thread about the topic of what temperature triggers the glow plugs. It's around 40 degrees I think. The glowlight came on this morning when I started it and it was probably around 35 degrees then. I've used the engine warm up switch at around 40 degrees if I wanted it to warm up quickly. I believe all it does is activate the exhaust brake to keep the exhaust gases closer to the engine for longer. I do use the manual idle control in cold weather to keep the idle up for it to warm faster and charge the batteries more quickly.

Related: I think there is also a discussion on here about what the glowplug light indicates. (maybe the discussion only took place in my own head:)) I think the glowplugs always operate, it's just that at lower temperatures the light comes on to tell you to wait a while before starting. As opposed to the glow plugs themselves only operating at lower temperatures. I've never put a voltmeter to the glow plugs to confirm this.
 

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