FG Tyre experiences

[yabanja]

I have the Bolton 17's . I have run both BFG AT 37's and Pro Comp all terrain 37's. Have been very happy with the setup. Wouldn't mind downsizing to 35" but there aren't any in a 17" size with adequate weight rating. If your truck has the taller final drive these tires will be too big.

Allan

 

[Bris31]

I have the Bolton 17's . I have run both BFG AT 37's and Pro Comp all terrain 37's. Have been very happy with the setup. Wouldn't mind downsizing to 35" but there aren't any in a 17" size with adequate weight rating. If your truck has the taller final drive these tires will be too big.

Allan

Hi Allan, would you know what is the weight of each Bolton's 17" and BFG 37's, combined or separately? Ta

 

[steve4wdaus]

Here is my Tyre experience if that assist? It was suggested I was running too high Tyre pressures over dirt road.
https://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/toyo-285-70-r19-5-m608z.155631/#post-2048606

 

[WhereisFranklin]

Hi Steve. Had read your thread some time back, so was not un surprised by the chipping I have. There really is a significant difference in the chipping and general wear from the new 18 tyre to the old 2010 ones, so much so, that you might consider a whole new set of Toyos ( NEW!) were it not for the massive price differential to other choices.
I spoke to Chris at ATW today and he mentioned the Goodride CM 986. $400 fitted but said he would work out an unfitted price as Im in Alice at the moment. All the old Toyos are in pretty crappy condition, every casual inspection reveals another chunk lost or ,say, a step from one tread block to the next in some weird wear pattern. I run at 70F/80R on highway and whatever is required on dirt. This trip has been 60/40 tar/dirt.

Further to the shocks situation. I removed both RAW4x4 adjustables the other day and found almost zero resistance on extension and a little bit on compression for both shocks. They were new about 10k ago. Rang Powerdown who were very helpful and have shipped a couple of non adjustable replacements ( Road Train model-LTS 782) to Alice under warranty. Probably not a long term solution but will get us home and around the ridges for a while.FYI, the original shocks supplied from ATW with the parabolics on our FG637 were the RAW4x4 T63320 M2Y for front and RT 104 M3 for rear. I think the rears are ok atm.

 

[steve4wdaus]

Here is a little I wrote on my upgrade
http://www.4wdaus.com/leaf-spring-upgrade-canter-4x4/
But basically I run SSA gear now, my original ROBO shocks were terrible, 1 seezed etc. my thoughts have been to have gear that can be replaced easily if required and not having to rely on specialist gear. I have 5000kms on my new toyos and running 80f/90r on road. I am also ensuring we do not over inflate off road, even for short distances, this appears be helping the wear on the tyres much better. By the way I found toyo tires are avail and I sourced my last set from Perth in nov 17 for $500. Sorry don’t recAll stockist, but was recommended by toyo themselves. Good luck and safe travels.
Steve

 

[yabanja]

The tire weight is 69 pounds. The wheel weighs 63 lbs for a total of 131 lbs.

Allan

 

[Family Friendly 4x4]

I have been running Kym's 17" Trackmasters and cannot complain. See photos below.

I have another FG with 16"s XZL's on and what I can tell you is that the 17"s are much safer should you have a blow-out!

I almost lost control of the FG when the 16 blew out at 80kmph (50mph). There is a lot more sidewall height to counter for in such a situation.

Kym's 17"s are also wider for a bigger footprint. In my experience a much nicer tyre to live with.

I just happen to have spoken to Kym via email in the last day and it does however seem like until the new version of the Trackmaster tyres arrive there may be a supply problem. Just check in with him.

Best tyres possible to use in the interim is a Patriot MT 37"x12.5" R17 131Q or with a lower load rating a Hankook 129Q.

 

[WhereisFranklin]

Good post. We are limping home on the old Toyos atm. The Trackmasters look the goods though they admit to rapid wear issues and have been withdrawn for a while until compound is improved. This,they freely admit to. The Hankooks come in 2 load ratings 124 and 129 and seem good value and well proven.

My Toyos head for China especially at the rear on soft stuff. Admittedly at road pressures but Im constantly amazed at their tendency to dig in at the slightest opportunity. I really need something with better flotation especially at road pressures. I run 80ish while Kooks probably would be around 50psi on the road.

 

[fg4oz]

I’m running two fg649s both with good ride from ATW and Koni shocks. Impressive after having the original Toyo tyres. Great to air down and get traction. Just my opinion, but I’m really happy with these on the 19.5 ATW rims.


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[steve4wdaus]

Fg4oz hit the nail on the head, the Toyos are very sensitive to pressure. To get the best out of them you need to Constantly adjust due to road surface.

 

[WhereisFranklin]

Interesting feedback. The Goodrides are another option and are significantly cheaper than the Toyos. Glad you are happy with them, however, for me, replacing with Goodrides still leaves a couple of issues independent of how they perform. One is that they still require similar pressures to the Toyos and are consequently harder riding than say the Hankooks. Secondly, they are in a similar category to the Toyos for availability as I found out when making some enquiries. So, if ATW are the only reliable source of these tyres then the freight and pricing needs to be considered if required on some remote track. And be aware, as a reminder, that I was supplied with old "new" tyres, so having a poorly rotated stock of tyres could mean similar experiences to mine with greatly reduced mileage. So, be cautious of tyre date when purchasing any tyre.

True about pressures. On the just completed trip, I spent a lot of time airing up and down, but one if the key reasons was comfort ahead of wear as the higher running pressures do not give much latitude on imperfect surfaces.

 

[Cuddy]

I have learnt that you will need to carry 2 spares. As you have mentioned any of the super single tyres are not commonly stocked, especially away from the capital cities... learnt that the hard way unfortunately

 

[WhereisFranklin]

Ditto, 2 spares. Where to mount extra is a headache but I have a bit of an idea mulling over. The advantages of a truck with body designed from scratch rather than modifying existing body with its inherent limitations is worth noting.

 

[pugslyyy]

on Robinson Fuso we run the M608Zs on ATW rims, custom (Deaver) springs and Bilstein shocks. Due to my GVWR I have no other choice - no other single tire can handle my rear axle weight.

I have never had a blowout or catastrophic tire failure, but I have had uneven tire wear and torn pretty good chunks off of the treads when off-roading, to the point that I was really nervous about some of the tires - but again, never a failure. A combination of standard balancing + balance beads and that seems to work pretty well.

We carry one spare. My experience is that it is easy to peel chunks off the tread, but hard to actually kill an M608Z.

 

[Family Friendly 4x4]

on Robinson Fuso we run the M608Zs on ATW rims, custom (Deaver) springs and Bilstein shocks. Due to my GVWR I have no other choice - no other single tire can handle my rear axle weight.

Could you perhaps send me the model number for your Bilsteins please? Did you have to raise the suspension at all for them to fit?