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[newworld2004]

Thank you, not sure why Mitsubishi did not cover crankshaft pulley under warranty since it is known issue
I got quote from Mits dealer timing belt kit 1350$, local shop charging $1100 parts and labor using Olympus parts and labor only $660. this quote is just for complete timing belt kits( front of engine). Another local shop offer me free lookup to see if timing belt were replaced or needs to be replaced.

 

[JohnnyBfromPeoria]

Gates is good for everything in that kit, except I'd get the timing belt tensioner from the dealer as well. Aftermarket ones have been failing on people lately.
I'd also skip the rear cam O-rings/seals unless they're leaking since they're difficult to replace without pulling the engine. Yes, the new crankshaft bolt and washer are solid and seem to be fine. Mine came with loc-tite on it from the factory. All those gaskets you listed are cheaper by buying a set from Fel-Pro off Rock Auto. I used a Timken front main/crankshaft seal and it's just fine, too.

Save all your receipts and note the mileage on the vehicle when you do this work. Gotta start doing it right for this vehicle sometime.

John B.

 

[newworld2004]

Gates is good for everything in that kit, except I'd get the timing belt tensioner from the dealer as well. Aftermarket ones have been failing on people lately.
I'd also skip the rear cam O-rings/seals unless they're leaking since they're difficult to replace without pulling the engine. Yes, the new crankshaft bolt and washer are solid and seem to be fine. Mine came with loc-tite on it from the factory. All those gaskets you listed are cheaper by buying a set from Fel-Pro off Rock Auto. I used a Timken front main/crankshaft seal and it's just fine, too.

Save all your receipts and note the mileage on the vehicle when you do this work. Gotta start doing it right for this vehicle sometime.

John B.

Thx, John

I wish all these parts could be purchased from one vendor or seller, it is difficult specially for some one who is not familiar with these parts, any way it make sense to replace crankshaft bolt and washer while doing timing belt job?

 

[jlocster]

any way it make sense to replace crankshaft bolt and washer while doing timing belt job?

You're going to have to replace the crank bolt/washer when doing the timing belt job as the old bolt/washer must be removed to replace the belt.

 

[newworld2004]

Thx, will do that is my plan, I was getting another quote from local shop here, and I was told they are using OES timing belt kit . according to them OES makes parts for Mitsubishi not sure how truth is that. they will do all timing belt job and drive belt along with thermoset for 1280 out the door part and labor.

 

[newworld2004]

so I shop around for last few days, and got few quotes; for all the below parts plus timing belt kits and cam, and crank position sensor and thermostat, came to $1670 OTD. another shop quote me 1400 plus tax. which one of these I can skip to lower the price?

MITSUBISHI MD 030763 O-ring, Under Plenum Coolant Passage Tube to Rear Water Pump Housing
MITSUBISHI MD 308723 Gasket, Water Pump Housing to Thermostat Housing
MITSUBISHI MD 372536 Camshaft Seal, Front (2 needed)
MITSUBISHI MN 176208 Camshaft O-ring, Rear (2 needed)
MITSUBISHI MD 149764 EGR Tube Gasket
MITSUBISHI MD 303148 Valve Cover Gasket (2 needed)
MITSUBISHI MD 198128 Valve Cover Spark Plug Tube Grommets (6 needed)
MITSUBISHI MR 994412 Crankshaft Washer
MITSUBISHI 1100A141 Crankshaft Bolt, 3rd Version
MITSUBISHI MD 3772249 Crankshaft Seal, Front
MITSUBISHI MD 199282 Intake Plenum Gasket

 

[TheMole]

All the parts you listed are about $175-$200 shipped online. It seems like you'll only be saving a few bucks if you skip them as the majority of the cost is labor.

 

[newworld2004]

All the parts you listed are about $175-$200 shipped online. It seems like you'll only be saving a few bucks if you skip them as the majority of the cost is labor.

That is correct, however these shops mark up on parts as well, and they are not warranty their work if I buy my own parts, it is really getting frustrating .

 

[jlocster]

None of the parts you listed would be smart to remove from your list. They are all needed. Referencing my previous post about there being two jobs, top of engine and front of engine, if you can't afford to do both, do the timing belt job first, and the spark plug job later. If the timing belt and crank bolt fail, the engine is done. If the spark plugs haven't been changed, the car wont run as efficiently but there's no risk of catastrophic damage. My 2¢.

 

[newworld2004]

None of the parts you listed would be smart to remove from your list. They are all needed. Referencing my previous post about there being two jobs, top of engine and front of engine, if you can't afford to do both, do the timing belt job first, and the spark plug job later. If the timing belt and crank bolt fail, the engine is done. If the spark plugs haven't been changed, the car wont run as efficiently but there's no risk of catastrophic damage. My 2¢.

Thx for advice, I have receipt that valve cover and plugs and wires were done in last 20K probably 2013, since I don't have any code do I have to do cam, and crank position sensor ? see below quote.

Sub Estimate #1
WATER PUMP - Remove & Replace - w/Air Cond
Part Number Part Description Quantity Sale Extended
1100A141 Crankshaft Pulley Bolt 1.00 $23.26 $23.26
MD 372249 Crankshaft Seal-Front 1.00 $15.03 $15.03
13 X 925 Drive Belt-Air Conditioning 1.00 $17.71 $17.71
5PK-1130 Drive Belt-Alternator 1.00 $26.50 $26.50
4PK-0990 Drive Belt-Power Steering 1.00 $17.57 $17.57
PP 287 LK1 T-Belt Kit w/ Water Pump 1.00 $398.62 $398.62
116 Antifreeze Long life 2.00 $15.45 $30.90
MD 350415 Thermostat 1.00 $47.43 $47.43
Labor: $625.65 Parts: $577.02 Job Total: $1,202.67
Total Fees: $47.46 Total Taxes: $34.62 Sub Estimate Total: $1,284.75
Grand Total All Sub Estimates: $1,284.75

 

[jlocster]

Thx for advice, I have receipt that valve cover and plugs and wires were done in last 20K probably 2013, since I don't have any code do I have to do cam, and crank position sensor ?

Oh ok, so you don't have to do the spark plugs, good. No you don't have to do the cam and crank position sensors, it's just cheap insurance to replace them while the front of the engine is opened up.

You're also going to need these parts in addition to what you have posted above:

MITSUBISHI MD 030763 O-ring, Under Plenum Coolant Passage Tube to Rear Water Pump Housing
MITSUBISHI MD 308723 Gasket, Water Pump Housing to Thermostat Housing

 

[newworld2004]

Oh ok, so you don't have to do the spark plugs, good. No you don't have to do the cam and crank position sensors, it's just cheap insurance to replace them while the front of the engine is opened up.

You're also going to need these parts in addition to what you have posted above:

MITSUBISHI MD 030763 O-ring, Under Plenum Coolant Passage Tube to Rear Water Pump Housing
MITSUBISHI MD 308723 Gasket, Water Pump Housing to Thermostat Housing

Thank you, yes I need to make sure this is part of timing belt package , just emailed shop .

 

[jlocster]

I also noticed you don't have the front cam seals listed. You're going to want to replace those also. You'll need two.

 

[newworld2004]

I also noticed you don't have the front cam seals listed. You're going to want to replace those also. You'll need two.

Thx, I think I covered in my email to shop yesterday.

"Please confirm if below itemize parts are correct with part number you are using for timing belt which I was quoted previously. I removed valve cover , spark plugs related work.

Timing Belt Kit, No Water Pump Housing
Kit contains: Timing Belt, Timing Belt Hydraulic Tensioner, Tensioner Pulley, Idler, Water Pump, Water Pump to Water Pump Housing Gasket, Water Pump Housing to Engine Gasket, Upper Coolant Passage O-ring
MITSUBISHI MD 030763 O-ring, Under Plenum Coolant Passage Tube to Rear Water Pump Housing
MITSUBISHI MD 308723 Gasket, Water Pump Housing to Thermostat Housing
MITSUBISHI MD 372536 Camshaft Seal, Front (2 needed)
MITSUBISHI MN 176208 Camshaft O-ring, Rear (2 needed)
MITSUBISHI MR 994412 Crankshaft Washer
MITSUBISHI 1100A141 Crankshaft Bolt, 3rd Version
MITSUBISHI MD 3772249 Crankshaft Seal, Front

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