Front E-locker F150

bigskypylot

Explorer
I'd recommend that as well. Need more power? Why go through the extra expense of an SC on 5.0? 3.5TT makes more power, easier and cheaper.
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Regarding the front locker. I'd personally just get a winch.

Well, I just want to build a project truck. It'd be new and just want something different as for the 3.5TT, they are nice but not gonna own one out of warranty. I'm giving thoughts to what I want with the suspension and what I really need vs. Want. The tru-trac is a possibility and the selectable locker would only be used when absolutely needed. It'll have a winch as well. I'm thinking 4.10s. I'd like 35s to fit but not sure I want to do any trimming on aluminum up front. Maybe get the Fiberwerx quarters? I'm not gonna dive in to this so that's why I'm looking at all possibilities. I got a nice severance package and with all my bills paid and money in the bank, I have enough to put together a nice project. Definitely not rich but I'll be fine :)
 

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I bet the supercharged coyote would only be marginally faster than the ecoboost raptor, probably worse on mileage, and definitely worse on resale. It would be a neat tricky though.
 

DT75FLH

Adventurer
The newer eb 3.5 have had the bugs worked out.,,a few fleet mangers with over 200 eb states he has no issue owning one.....I was on the fence and just bought a f150. I wanted a 5.0 but would take a 3.5....found a 3.5 and love it...with the 3.31 gears it will tow over 10k....I put a level kit a1in block in the rear with 285.75.18 tire...35.11.50. At it still gets 14 plus mpg at 82 mph....it was 16.5 stock.....I love that it pulls hills in 6th gear..and was worried running a 35 in tire I would need to Rea gear but I won't after running it around 2k miles now. Factory cc 5.5 bed 36 gal tank and rear locker...I'm set.....the cheap lift kit was only 250. Also...I also put a 6yr 125k mile ford plat warranty just in case lol.


My work truck is a 2009 f150 that carries around 3 to 400#in the bed....no issues in 125k miles and I'm not nice to it. ccsb 4x4 with the 5.4 ....2 sets of front brakes. I set of rears. 4 sets of tires and a Oring on the elect connector to the trans....and oil X every 5k miles. ..pushed me to buy my 2016

And they were offering 10k off sticker due to the 6 sp trans vs the 2017 10 sp trans
 

bigskypylot

Explorer
The newer eb 3.5 have had the bugs worked out.,,a few fleet mangers with over 200 eb states he has no issue owning one.....I was on the fence and just bought a f150. I wanted a 5.0 but would take a 3.5....found a 3.5 and love it...with the 3.31 gears it will tow over 10k....I put a level kit a1in block in the rear with 285.75.18 tire...35.11.50. At it still gets 14 plus mpg at 82 mph....it was 16.5 stock.....I love that it pulls hills in 6th gear..and was worried running a 35 in tire I would need to Rea gear but I won't after running it around 2k miles now. Factory cc 5.5 bed 36 gal tank and rear locker...I'm set.....the cheap lift kit was only 250. Also...I also put a 6yr 125k mile ford plat warranty just in case lol.


My work truck is a 2009 f150 that carries around 3 to 400#in the bed....no issues in 125k miles and I'm not nice to it. ccsb 4x4 with the 5.4 ....2 sets of front brakes. I set of rears. 4 sets of tires and a Oring on the elect connector to the trans....and oil X every 5k miles. ..pushed me to buy my 2016

And they were offering 10k off sticker due to the 6 sp trans vs the 2017 10 sp trans

Those are some good points. I'm still on the fence about the 3.5. I don't care about resale because I keep most of my vehicles til they give up the ghost.

As for the 35s, my concern was the ability to fit without trimming or buying new fiberglass fenders. Whathe, if anything goes will I need to do to fit 35s. I like the Raptor beadlock wheels and the Walker Evans Wheel as well. How much did the 125k warranty run you?

Thanks for your input, DT75FLH
 

DT75FLH

Adventurer
Those are some good points. I'm still on the fence about the 3.5. I don't care about resale because I keep most of my vehicles til they give up the ghost.

As for the 35s, my concern was the ability to fit without trimming or buying new fiberglass fenders. Whathe, if anything goes will I need to do to fit 35s. I like the Raptor beadlock wheels and the Walker Evans Wheel as well. How much did the 125k warranty run you?

Thanks for your input, DT75FLH

I'm running the stock 18in sport rims and the 35s clear fine.....

I found a Ford dealer online that quoted 1560. For platinum 6yr 125k warranty....the selling dealer offered fleet price at 2300....I showe'd him the quote from the other dealer and they matched it.
 

DT75FLH

Adventurer
I'm running the rough country 2in front 1in rear with stock rims 35x11.5x18 fit. It was a very cheap lift to see if I like the height and ride.

I picked up a set of rear 2012 raptor internal bypass shocks and had them rebuilt, but set at 200psi instead of stock 250psi. Seems to work so far with the alum body f150. I need to run them a bit and see if I need to lower them anymore...highway ride is fine.

Since I picked up some real rear shocks I just sprung for some icon 2.5 for the front and upper control arms. Should be fairly balanced with the rear, with as much travel as the older raptors, well see
 

Happy Joe

Apprentice Geezer
For those that have front lockers, how often do you actually use it?

I've wheeled with people that have front lockers. But they only use them while snow wheeling.

I'd make sure you have a good rear locker before adding anything to the front of an IFS.

Where, and how, we wheel, difficult trails or harder (improved roads simply do not need 4wd until the snow gets deep enough that you are pushing it with the front diff cover/skidplate); I use the front selectable/ARB locker on nearly every, significant, obstacle. There is some debate in our group (and among wheelers in general); whether it is better to go selectable for the front locker or to go with a Detroit (non selectable/automatic) locker.. Its a given that a front locker is necessary in our group; due to the difficulty of our preferred terrain.

My problem with automatic/non selectable lockers is that they will cause the tires to slide down hill (sideways on crowned road if/when ice is encountered in daily driving).
... by using a selectable front locker (turned off) I can usually get mostly across a slippery side hill before the vehicle starts sliding toward the cliff edge/gully/ditch/trees, in the snow/slippery... for normal dry or moderately wet conditions its not an issue.

I typically run a low strength front diff (due to it being what I have) and see no reason not to put a selectable locker in an IFS (because of IFS limited wheel travel it is likely the only good way to do the harder trails (one or more tires in the air)).

It should be noted that a good traction control system will reduce the need for lockers in most conditions.

For most of the vehicles and all terrain tires that I see here I would question the actual value/need for lockers in many cases...IMO the most successful setups are designed around the total vehicle/powertrain package with the difficulty of the likely terrain kept solidly in mind..

Enjoy!
 
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bigskypylot

Explorer
I'm running the stock 18in sport rims and the 35s clear fine.....

I found a Ford dealer online that quoted 1560. For platinum 6yr 125k warranty....the selling dealer offered fleet price at 2300....I showe'd him the quote from the other dealer and they matched it.

Excellent! Thanks much :)
 

bigskypylot

Explorer
I'm running the rough country 2in front 1in rear with stock rims 35x11.5x18 fit. It was a very cheap lift to see if I like the height and ride.

I picked up a set of rear 2012 raptor internal bypass shocks and had them rebuilt, but set at 200psi instead of stock 250psi. Seems to work so far with the alum body f150. I need to run them a bit and see if I need to lower them anymore...highway ride is fine.

Since I picked up some real rear shocks I just sprung for some icon 2.5 for the front and upper control arms. Should be fairly balanced with the rear, with as much travel as the older raptors, well see

The Old Raptor was 11 and 13 f/r travel if I recall? I'mean really torn between theach F150 and 350 lol. Uggh
 

bigskypylot

Explorer
Where, and how, we wheel, difficult trails or harder (improved roads simply do not need 4wd until the snow gets deep enough that you are pushing it with the front diff cover/skidplate); I use the front selectable/ARB locker on nearly every, significant, obstacle. There is some debate in our group (and among wheelers in general); whether it is better to go selectable for the front locker or to go with a Detroit (non selectable/automatic) locker.. Its a given that a front locker is necessary in our group; due to the difficulty of our preferred terrain.

My problem with automatic/non selectable lockers is that they will cause the tires to slide down hill (sideways on crowned road if/when ice is encountered in daily driving).
... by using a selectable front locker (turned off) I can usually get mostly across a slippery side hill before the vehicle starts sliding toward the cliff edge/gully/ditch/trees, in the snow/slippery... for normal dry or moderately wet conditions its not an issue.

I typically run a low strength front diff (due to it being what I have) and see no reason not to put a selectable locker in an IFS (because of IFS limited wheel travel it is likely the only good way to do the harder trails (one or more tires in the air)).

It should be noted that a good traction control system will reduce the need for lockers in most conditions.

For most of the vehicles and all terrain tires that I see here I would question the actual value/need for lockers in many cases...IMO the most successful setups are designed around the total vehicle/powertrain package with the difficulty of the likely terrain kept solidly in mind..

Enjoy!

I guess in my thought process, I'd like a selectable locker just to have it on the rare occasion that I need it. I've only used my rear locker a handful of times. However, when you need it, you need it.
 

D45

Explorer
...with the 3.31 gears it will tow over 10k....I put a level kit a1in block in the rear with 285.75.18 tire...35.11.50. At it still gets 14 plus mpg at 82 mph....it was 16.5 stock.....I love that it pulls hills in 6th gear..and was worried running a 35 in tire I would need to Rea gear but I won't after running it around 2k miles now. Factory cc 5.5 bed 36 gal tank and rear locker...I'm set.....the cheap lift kit was only 250. Also...I also put a 6yr 125k mile ford plat warranty just in case lol.


My work truck is a 2009 f150 that carries around 3 to 400#in the bed....no issues in 125k miles and I'm not nice to it. ccsb 4x4 with the 5.4 ....2 sets of front brakes. I set of rears. 4 sets of tires and a Oring on the elect connector to the trans....and oil X every 5k miles. ..pushed me to buy my 2016

300-400 in the bed, is that a lot?

My half ton carried 2,600 in the bed and did 80 on the highway

With 3.73 gears my EB has the Max Tow...............12,100 pounds towing

I have a 2" front leveling kit and 3" tall rear blocks (2" taller than stock) and can barely squeeze 13.5 mpgs with 34" tires

I want 35s badly, but know my mileage will drop into the 12s, which is horrible

I miss my diesel truck..........6" lift with 37s and I averaged 16.8-18.6 mpg
 

DT75FLH

Adventurer
300-400 in the bed, is that a lot?

My half ton carried 2,600 in the bed and did 80 on the highway


I have a 2" front leveling kit and 3" tall rear blocks (2" taller than stock) and can barely squeeze 13.5 mpgs with 34" tg

No 400 lbs is not a lot..just I've had the weight in the truck since day one and for 125k miles that's all.

I'm running 285 75 18 which is 34.8 iirc but only 11.4 wide which helps with clearing everything. I looked for a max tow truck and I wanted the 3.55 or 3.73, but bought the truck that had all the other options I wanted. I am pleasantly surprised with the mpg and 3.31 gears. I have a few hills and lots of wind where I live along with 75mph speed limit so all poor mpg traits. My work truck avg is 12.3 lifetime but that has some 10 hr days of idle time occasionally.

Gold truck is the work truck.

Silver is the personal one
 

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DT75FLH

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Gold f150 is running 285.70.17 since new also

The raptor rear shocks actually lifted the rear around 1/4 in.

I'm sure the 700 lbs lighter truck is helping the mpg also
 

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