Garmin Overlander

moto-treks

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H3LV said:
SO, I bought the Overlander during the Black Friday deals and after updating the maps have lost my Ultimate Public campsites POIs. Has anyone else had this happen?
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Yes, the last update has removed those POIs. I’ve contacted Garmin and they are looking the problem.

This happened about a year ago with the iOverlander POI - that problem was fixed with a software update.

You might want to try the default fix from Garmin which is to reinstall the maps (via computer.) If you still have problems contact Garmin and see if they want you to sent them the install logs.

However, that didn’t fix the problem for me. I’ve sent the install logs to Garmin and I’m waiting for a reply.

I have noticed that there is now a separate, iOverlander, install. Perhaps Garmin needs to have a separate Ultimate Campgrounds install
 
roving1

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When Starlink gets up and running the last viable reason to buy a Garmin, affordable emergency sat coms, will be moot. It is pretty clear their stand alone stuff are all dead men walking.
 
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jprovence01

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roving1 said:
When Starlink gets up and running the last viable reason to buy a Garmin, affordable emergency sat coms, will be moot. It is pretty clear their stand alone stuff are all dead men walking.
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I guess I don't like pay more and more money for monthly subscriptions or making sure I have a reliable data connection on the move. It's maps. It should be loaded to memory and work. I personally found the Overlander to be more enjoyable to use and build trips than Gaia and other alternatives.
 
roving1

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jprovence01 said:
I guess I don't like pay more and more money for monthly subscriptions or making sure I have a reliable data connection on the move. It's maps. It should be loaded to memory and work. I personally found the Overlander to be more enjoyable to use and build trips than Gaia and other alternatives.
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Downloading is downloading. Not sure why updating the Garmin at home on WIFI vs downloading all the stuff you need for anything else on WIFI is any different? Also it's pretty clear Garmin stuff isn't a whole lot more reliable than anything else is. I have used and updated Garmin stuff for years and the amount of things that have been bricked or screwed up is not insignificant. Base camp and whatever they are calling it now have always been horrible flaky pieces of software too. Literally nothing is intuitive and its a fight and internet research to figure out how to do anything. I'll take reinstalling an app over exchanging out hardware any day.

I hate subs too but the numbers just don't work out. What you pay for in hardware is costing more than a subscription would for almost 20 years of Gaia and you are paying a premium to use crap tier hardware that is already half obsolete from the day you use it. You could pay for sub fees for 10 years of Gaia and one year of emergency inreach sub for just the hardware cost of this unit.

I keep old Nuvis chocked full of free topo and road maps for the whole world as a backup with local storage but I am not paying $600 to do that.

I'm sorry. I am not trying to attack anyone's personal preferences. I just don't understand people's support of this unit overall with all the continued issues and the cost.
 
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jprovence01

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roving1 said:
Downloading is downloading. Not sure why updating the Garmin at home on WIFI vs downloading all the stuff you need for anything else on WIFI is any different? Also it's pretty clear Garmin stuff isn't a whole lot more reliable than anything else is. I have used and updated Garmin stuff for years and the amount of things that have been bricked or screwed up is not insignificant. Base camp and whatever they are calling it now have always been horrible flaky pieces of software too. Literally nothing is intuitive and its a fight and internet research to figure out how to do anything. I'll take reinstalling an app over exchanging out hardware any day.

I hate subs too but the numbers just don't work out. What you pay for in hardware is costing more than a subscription would for almost 20 years of Gaia and you are paying a premium to use crap tier hardware that is already half obsolete from the day you use it. You could pay for sub fees for 10 years of Gaia and one year of emergency inreach sub for just the hardware cost of this unit.

I keep old Nuvis chocked full of free topo and road maps for the whole world as a backup with local storage but I am not paying $600 to do that.

I'm sorry. I am not trying to attack anyone's personal preferences. I just don't understand people's support of this unit overall with all the continued issues and the cost.
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$700 is very hard to justify for this unit. Your right. I’ve found Garmin hardware to be very reliable. I’m going on 8 years on a Garmin Montana. It still delivers on the promises that were made the day I bought it. It now lives on my brothers. ADV bike. So to me, obsolete is subjective. Will the Overlander deliver on what it was designed to do? After bugs are worked out, it will.

I’ve found Basecamp to be more friendly to use than Gaia on an iPad when trying to design a route. Once I discovered the difference between the Profiles and how they interact with maps, I found Basecamp producing great routes between ghost towns in Eastern Oregon for instance. I can comb the route later for gates etc. Export as tracks and then import them into Explore and I’m ready to go.

It all boils down to personal preference. But this is a discussion group about the Overlander, not what makes it a good or bad unit.


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moto-treks

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jprovence01 said:
$700 is very hard to justify for this unit. Your right. I’ve found Garmin hardware to be very reliable. I’m going on 8 years on a Garmin Montana. It still delivers on the promises that were made the day I bought it. It now lives on my brothers. ADV bike. So to me, obsolete is subjective. Will the Overlander deliver on what it was designed to do? After bugs are worked out, it will.

I’ve found Basecamp to be more friendly to use than Gaia on an iPad when trying to design a route. Once I discovered the difference between the Profiles and how they interact with maps, I found Basecamp producing great routes between ghost towns in Eastern Oregon for instance. I can comb the route later for gates etc. Export as tracks and then import them into Explore and I’m ready to go.

It all boils down to personal preference. But this is a discussion group about the Overlander, not what makes it a good or bad unit.


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