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haven

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new tablets at the IFA show

Several companies announced new Android tablets at this week's IFA Conference in Berlin. IFA bills itself as the world's largest show for consumer electronics and appliances.

While a few 10 inch tablets were announced, the real news was about tablets with screens that measure 8 inches or smaller. Here are a few that caught my attention: Archos 80 G9; Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7, Samsung Galaxy Note, Lenovo A1 tablet, and the Kindle tablet from Amazon.com.

Archos 80 G9
The ninth generation of Archos tablets have a couple of features that may appeal to overland travelers. The 80 G9 has an 8 inch, 1024x768 capacitive color touchscreen, so it will be a little smaller than the ubiquitous iPad. Processor will be a 1.5 GHz TI OMAP ARM Cortex A9 dual core unit, which should be about 50% faster than the processors in today's top models. A 250GB hard drive will be an option for internal storage, so the 80 G9 can hold lots of photos taken during your trip. Last, the 80 G9 has a slot for a USB modem rather than a SIM card for access to a carrier's data network. The contracts associated with USB modems are often less expensive than SIM card plans. The 80 G9 is expected to be available in October, price about $400.

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7
This model probably is the replacement for the venerable 7 inch Galaxy Tab, which was introduced last December. The new model has a 7.7 inch screen with 1280x800 pixels, the sort of display used on most 10 inch tablets. At first I thought this would make text be too small to read comfortably, but hands-on movies show this concern to be unfounded. The 7.7 will include USB 2.0 Host capability, so it can be used with a USB keyboard, and can accept a USB memory drive without an adapter. The 7.7 includes an assisted GPS chip that works without Internet access. The tablet includes an 8 megapixel camera on the back. Somehow Samsung has found room for a 5100 mAh battery in a device that measures 7.7″ x 5.2″ x 0.3 inches and weighs 0.74 lbs. Price and shipping date were not announced.

An ominous sign: After two days of showing the 7.7, Samsung pulled the device from its booth. Samsung and Apple are locked in a patent dispute in Germany. A judge has issued a restraining order that prohibits Samsung from selling their 10 inch tablet while the dispute is argued in court. It's likely that the 7.7 was pulled to avoid getting tangled up in the lawsuit. Apple has sued Samsung in USA, too, but no injunctions have been granted so far.

Samsung made additional news when they announced the Galaxy Note, a smartphone with a 5.3 inch, 1280x800 capacitive touchscreen. The Note has a 1.4 GHz dual core processor, an 8 megapixel camera, and will be offered with an LTE or HSPA+ data modem. As the name implies, the Note also has the ability to work with a stylus. Samsung includes a Memo app that can record handwritten notes, photos and voice input. Again, no delivery date or price was announced.

Lenovo made news for their A1 tablet, but not because the A1 has cutting edge features. Instead, the A1 has a great price: $199 for a 7 inch tablet with 1024x600 capacitive color touchscreen. To save money, the A1 has a 1 GHz single core processor and only 8 GB storage. The design includes a GPS chip plus front and rear cameras. The A1 is about 0.5 inches thick and weighs 0.9 lbs. Reviewers at the show say the A1's build quality is more than you might expect for the price.

While not appearing at the IFA conference, Amazon.com's new 7 inch Kindle tablet made news. The design was shown to journalists. The tablet was described as appearing very similar to the RIM Blackberry tablet, one of my favorite tablet designs. The Kindle tablet will run a highly customized version of Google Android. The tablet will connect to Amazon's book and magazine sales, Amazon's music store, the Amazon store for Android apps, and Amazon streaming video. The tablet will link to Amazon's cloud storage. You can access your media purchases from any Kindle associated with your account. Price of the new tablet is expected to be $250, matching the tablet from rival Barnes and Noble. Delivery of the Kindle tablet is expected to start just before the holidays.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
There is no doubt we will see some interesting new designs for slate computers next year.

Microsoft is demonstrating the developers' version of Windows 8, running on several vendors' ARM-licensed hardware. These machines are very similar to the slates that run Android 3.2 today. The Windows 8 user interface looks great. It will be very interesting to compare Android and Windows running on similar lightweight slate computers.

Intel just announced a partnership with Google to get Android running on Intel's processors. This could lead to a batch of inexpensive netbook computers running Android in place of Windows, and opens the possibility for Intel's new lower power processors to compete with ARM designs in slate computers.

Pre-orders for the Archos 80 G9 start Sept 20. This is a promising new design with a fast processor, and prices are almost reasonable. This model has a GPS chip for navigation without an Internet connection. Details:

Archos 80 G9
$299 = 1 GHz processor, 8 GB flash storage
$329 = 1.5 GHz processor, 16 GB flash storage
$369 = 1.5 GHz processor, 250 GB hard drive

1.5 GHz TI OMAP ARM Cortex A9 dual core
8 inch 1024x768 capacitive multitouch screen
1 GB RAM
Android 3.2
Google Market and suite of apps
GPS chip
micro usb, micro HDMI output
usb host capability
front facing camera, capable of 720p video
built in "kickstand" to hold tablet upright on a desk
full size USB slot on the bottom of the slate
...Archos makes a 3G modem to fit, other 3G and 4G USB modems may fit, too
dimensions 8.9″ x 6.1″ x 0.5″ (0.6" hard drive)
weight 1.1 lbs flash, 1.4 lbs hard drive
 

barlowrs

Explorer
Hey not sure if its discussed or not, or if this is even the place, but I just discoverd Torque. It is very nice, I am using a cheap ebay OBDII bluetooth scanner with mine, and its working great. Torque will tell me EVERYTHING happening in my engine (well comming through my ECU) in real time (temps, pressures, etc..anything you could ever want to monitor), as well as monitor CE codes, and clear them. The other cool thing is the paid version (much better than the free version) has a pitch and roll displays (for inclinaton, etc)...kinda neat!
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Logitech keyboard for Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1

Logitech is marketing ZAGG keyboards that pairs with Android tablets using Bluetooth. Here's a review that has good things to say about this keyboard with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/mobile-ne...y-tab-101-near-laptop-replacement-review/4464

Why this combination, instead of a laptop? It gives extra flexibility. Use it as a tablet without the keyboard, or, with keyboard attached, use it as a laptop replacement.

Retail price is $99, so keep an eye out for discounts online.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Samsung is not letting its legal squabbles with Apple slow down the introduction of new Android tablets. Here's the timetable for the start of sales at Best Buy in USA:

October 2: Galaxy Tab 8.9 (Android 3.2, 1280 x 800 screen, $469 for 16GB)

October 16: Galaxy Tab 5.0 (Android 2.3.5, 800x480 screen, $269 for 8GB)

October 16: Galaxy Tab 4.0 (Android 2.3.5, 800x480 screen, $229 for 8GB)

Samsung also received FCC approval to sell the Galaxy Tab 7.7 in USA. This is expected to be the replacement for the original Galaxy Tab with 7 inch screen, which was launched last December. Specs include a 1.4 GHz dual core processor, 1280 x 800 screen, Android 3.2, 0.74-pound (335-gram) weight, and battery good for 10 hours of computing.

In addition, the Samsung Galaxy S II is considered by many to be the best of the current Android phones. Versions are available from Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile and Sprint.
 

craig

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Has anyone found an Android tablet, w/ built in GPS, & a 7-10" *sunlight visible* screen?

How about ruggedized/semi-ruggedized units?
 

esh

Explorer
Has anyone found an Android tablet, w/ built in GPS, & a 7-10" *sunlight visible* screen?

How about ruggedized/semi-ruggedized units?

Craig,

I've been keeping an eye out with the daylight readable touchscreen being the most important, (upgradable) storage next, but for Windows... are you porting an Android ON app?? :Wow1:

Not putting any stock in a built-in GPS, so USB ports are important. The new eTrex 30 has been fantastic. Yes it's another device, but you get a lot for it (same as a 62s) without spending a ton of touchscreen Garmins.

Anandtech and Tom's Hardware generally do decent jobs at screen reviews. I use them while watching screen development/derailment on phones.

As usual, nobody makes the complete package yet. Samsung looks promising as does Archos, Viewsonic and (Acer? Asus? Lenovo?). Samsung is currently rocking the phone world and is dangerous enough in Europe and Australia that Apple has taken to the courts to prevent sales of the Galaxy Tab.

As for ruggedness, for the prices that Android tablets are going for, I think of them as disposable. A traditional ruggedized tablet generally goes for 2-3K (think traditional Windows setup). I have been happy with my Itronix DuoTouch, which did come with a worthless GPS (plugged into the CF slot, and removed immediately). It still gets dust under the screen despite the mil-spec sealing. But it was cheap and it runs TOPO! 24K stuff for all the western states (40-50GB of space). The screen is decent enough, and the footprint is nice.. plus RAM makes a moulded mount just for it.
 
Well, I continue to love my Galaxy SII. It was nice to have a "city GPS" for my trip into The Big Smoke yesterday. But it only proved that no matter what app you put on it, it can never replace a REAL GPS. Not only is it not rugged, but the battery was dead after about 5 hours. My GPSMap 76Cs lasts about 2-3 days on a pair of AA's, and it's easy to carry spares.

I think a big part of the reason is the phone needs to run max screen brightness to be visible in the daylight. And actually it works not too bad for not being "sunlight readable". It's not transreflective, but I can read it easily in direct sunlight. But it just chomps the batteries.

Motorola Razr
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expected price with 2 year contract: $300

1.2 GHz dual core processor (20% faster than most current smartphones)

<snip>

Other than a touch more resolution, is this an improvement over the current topline models? I'm just wondering what's "next generation" about it.
 
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haven

Expedition Leader
Asus just revealed the next generation of its popular Transformer tablet. The Transformer Prime is powered by the NVIDIA quad core processor. The tablet has a 10 inch screen, resolution unspecified. The unit is very thin, only 8mm. Details, including which version of Android the Transformer Prime will use when it ships, will be revealed on Nov. 10.

The secret to maintaining battery life with a more powerful multi-core processor is to include a second, single core processor as well. The single core processor will be used for simple computing tasks like reading email. The more powerful processor will take over when you're working on more complex tasks. ARM has released a reference design for such a secondary single core processor, naming it the Cortex A7.
 
My brother has a Transformer and is very happy with it. I forget the number, but he's getting something on the order of days of moderate use out of a battery charge.

My honeymoon with my SGS2 is ending. I seem to have a battery consumption problem. I can kill it in just a few hours of moderate to heavy use. Even doing *nothing*, not making a single phone call, nothing, it looks like it will only last 32 hours. Tomorrow I'm going to try turning everything off, Wifi, gps and bluetooth, and the only 2 widgets I have running (Battery Monitor and Watchdog), and see how long it goes.

The problem is likely down to an issue with Android 2.3.3 not sleeping properly on the SGS2, a situation confirmed by Google and Samsung sometime in the summer. It is fixed with 2.3.4, but my carrier (Vigrin Mobile/Bell) is sitting on that update still and hasn't pushed it out yet.
 

haven

Expedition Leader
Last month, Amazon introduced the Kindle Fire, a tablet that runs a custom version of Android. In addition to Amazon's book, magazine and music libraries, the Fire has access to Amazon's collection of Android applications. With a subscription to Amazon Prime ($79 a year) the Fire can view Amazon's growing library of movie and TV shows. Prime offers other advantages, such as free two day shipping on all Amazon purchases. The Fire includes access to the Amazon Cloud internet storage, and synchronization of bookmarks and marginal notes across all of your devices that run the Kindle app.

Now Barnes and Noble (B&N) is releasing their answer to the Fire. It comes in two parts: First, the price of the current Nook Color tablet will be lowered to $199. The Nook Color has specifications that are not quite up to the Fire, including an 800 MHz single core processor and 512MB RAM. Some Nook Color features are similar to than the Fire, including 8 GB flash memory, and a seven inch, 1024x600 multitouch IPS color display. The Nook Color has a slot for microSD memory expansion. This is missing in the Fire. The Nook Color runs Android 2.2 today. There are several ways to substitute a full version of Android for B&N's limited version. This makes the Nook Color a popular tablet option among Android hacker types.

Second, B&N is releasing a new model called the Nook Tablet. The Tablet has leading edge specs for Fall 2011, including a 1.2 GHz dual core processor, 1GB RAM, and 16 GB flash memory. The Tablet will include the microSD slot and seven inch color display of the original Nook Color. Price of the Nook Tablet will be $249 when released on Nov 16.

Both the Nook Color and Nook Tablet will soon get updated software (Android 2.3.x) that runs apps from Netflix, Hulu and Pandora, giving access to a broad spectrum of movies, tv and music.

The Amazon Fire provides access to the full range of Amazon services. But the Fire also locks you into the Amazon ecosystem. The Nook Tablet, on the other hand, is designed to work with many content providers, and many developers of Android apps. Compared to the Fire, the Nook Tablet has a faster processor, more memory, and a slot for a memory card. In hardware terms, that's worth $50.

Of interest to overland travelers: Neither Amazon nor B&N tablets have GPS service built in. The B&N Nook Color, after getting root access and loading the CyanogenMod version of Android, can use bluetooth-attached GPS receivers for navigation. We'll have to wait for the Nook Tablet to be released, but I expect that root access for the device will be available within a few days.
 

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