Grand Canyon backpack ideas

beerhiker

Adventurer
Hello, always wanted to do a 2-3nt trip into the canyon so next year Im doing it, just looking here for some suggestions. I have it in my head that I want to do rim to rim, maybe S Kaibab to N Kaibab, but not set on it. Maybe a loop hike starting from either rim for less crowds? Im thinking of doing this next Sep late to early Oct and probably solo, so no off trail crazy route finding stuff. Any suggestions? any good guide books I should take a look at, and I see many websites on the subject but seeing what the EXPO crowd says.
Thanks
 

02TahoeMD

Explorer
There are little trail guidebooks that you can buy that give detailed writeups on the Grand Canyon Trails. I would definitely recommend getting them. You will need a backcountry permit to camp down inside of the canyon, the sooner you apply the better. If you want to do a rim to rim camping hike, make sure you check with the shuttle schedule so you are not stuck at one rim or the other.

A personal suggestion for a rim to rim hike would be to start on the South Rim, hike down Bright Angel, having lunch at Indian Gardens, then camping that night at Phantom Creek. Following day hike from Phantom Creek on the North Kaibab trail, stopping for lunch at Ribbon Falls, then finishing and camping at Cottonwood Campground. Then finish out with a hike up North Kaibab and reward yourself with a great meal at the North Rim Lodge restaurant.

If you are travelling during hot weather (hot in the inner Canyon that is...temp can be quite a bit warmer in the bottom than up top! ) I would recommend breaking camp early and setting off before the heat of the day builds.

If you wish to stick with the South Rim, then I would start on the South Kaibab, down to Phantom Ranch, then back up via the Bright Angel, camping at Indian Springs, then topping out next to Kolb Studios.

Definitely take some time to prepare yourself by using a stairclimber or running stadium seating, backpacking the canyon is not for the out of shape!
 

cnynrat

Expedition Leader
... If you wish to stick with the South Rim, then I would start on the South Kaibab, down to Phantom Ranch, then back up via the Bright Angel, camping at Indian Springs, then topping out next to Kolb Studios.

Definitely take some time to prepare yourself by using a stairclimber or running stadium seating, backpacking the canyon is not for the out of shape!

The S. Kaibab-Bright Angel loop does make a nice 3-4 night trip. We stayed down at Phantom Ranch campground for a couple nights so we had a little time to explore around the area, and then stopped at Indian Gardens on the way back up to break up the climb. Personally, I found the long downhill day on the South Kaibab trail to be more challenging than the climb back up, but that could be a function of my middle age knees. :elkgrin:

It is one of the few backpacking trips I know of where you can drink beer and have a steak dinner at a restaurant while you are out on the trail. Be sure to make reservations in advance if you want to eat at Phantom Ranch though.
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
It depends what you're looking for in terms of an authentic experience. I've hiked over 2,000 miles in the canyon spanning 33 years. I was lucky to have a father who was a canyon hiking freak who thought it fun to take his 5 year old son down there. Good thing CPS wasn't there. :)

The South Kaibab, North Kaibab and Bright Angel Trails are considered the "corridor" trails and as such...are by no means remote or "backcountry" in feel. They're not easy hikes, but in places, those trails are 9 feet wide, have rest shacks, railings, etc. They also have 1000 tourists at the top all doing their best to clog the trail. Then, there's the mule poop and pools of pee. Corridor hiking has its merits, but you have to take it for what it is. Same for Phantom RANCH, not CREEK. Phantom Ranch is really neat, has great food, and offers a great deal of luxury for its location, but it's not "remote" and you do have to share it with quite a few others. Phantom Creek on the other hand is a fine hike, but not for a solo.

There are also tons of other amazing trails that are far more remote, but no more or less difficult. I've hiked all over the Alps, Rockies, Sierras, Atlas Mountains and the wilds of Alaska. The Canyon might be one of the most amazing wilderness areas I've ever had the pleasure to visit. If you go to the more remote areas (just a few miles off the corridors) you will only ever see a handful of other backpackers as opposed to maybe hundreds on the corridors. Regarding the true backcountry trails, some only see a dozen hikers a season, but due to the permitting control, even a solo hiker is easily located if trouble strikes and is overdue. I've been on trails that only see a couple hikers per decade which to me is amazing considering the proximity to Vegas, Phoenix, etc. What an amazing place.

One of my favorites is a hike down the New Hance trail to Hance Rapids. Then over to Cottonwood Creek below Horseshoe Mesa. The hike out is up the Grandview Trail. You get a river camp. You get a Tonto Plateau hike and an exit along one of the most spectacular ridgeline hikes in the park. I usually do that in 3 days, but 4 would be a tad more relaxed. When I say favorite, I mean to say I've done that loop at least 6 times and still adore it. It's a perfect slice of all that the park has to offer. You walk past ancient indian granaries, massive rapids, huge dunes and volcanic slabs. You even hike through one of the most amazing mining operations in canyon history. Bar none the best 3-5 day jaunt in the park.

Regarding season, September is still bloody hot. October and November are best. November and April are my favorite canyon months. I used to do extremely remote water surveys for the Park Service and my one really ugly trip due to lack of water and high heat was in September. Blah. Not fun. I also used to guide multi-day trips for the Grand Canyon Institute and September would often have some of our clients suffering more than they had anticipated.

Regarding Rim to Rim hikes, those too can be fun, but I think there are far, far more exciting hikes down there. Rim to Rim gets more objective oriented and less about the splendor of the canyon.

Shoot me a PM if you have questions. I'm a recovering Grand Canyon Junkie. I spent so much time down there in the late 90s, the Park put me to work! Wonderful place.
 
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KSJeep

Explorer
A few years back I did a 2 nighter in the canyon and it was amazing. Did the Bright Angel to Indian Springs and set up camp. Spent the afternoon/evening on Plateu Point (great place to watch the sunset). Next morning left the camp set up and headed to the river via Bright Angel and over to and up the S. Kaibob trail. About 1/2 way up the trail there is another trail that runs back to the Bright Angel (can't remember the name) but it comes out just below the campground, Made for a great day hike (just bring a well stocked daypack with you). Spent the Night and headed up the Bright Angel the next morning.
Yes, the top of the south rim is crowded, and so is the upper part of the Bright Angel, but once you start getting toward the campground the tourist have pretty much retreated back up and it's only the few that are camping.

This made for a great 3 day hike with few crowds. You can check out my pics here: http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/221230821emHfox?vhost=outdoors

No matter which way you go, you just can't go wrong in the Grand Canyon.
 

yubert

Explorer
Havasupai Indian Reservation

Another hike to consider is the Havasupai Indian Reservation on the South Rim. The hike from the rim to Havasupai Village is 8 miles, another 2 miles to the campground and from there, another 6 miles to the Colorado River.

The main attraction in the area are the waterfalls, specifically Havasu Falls and Mooney Falls. I've attached some photos of Havasupai Falls and the link below has more details.

http://www.havasupaitribe.com/
 

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Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
My dad and I spent several years as volunteers on the Havasupai reservation. We helped a team of physicians and scientists haul medical supplies down to the village. I can't go there anymore. Breaks my heart. The falls are truly stunning. The condition of the village and the recent challenges of the people down there crush my heart.
 

yubert

Explorer
Flounder what recent challenges of the Havasupai are you referring to? Is it the flash floods from last year or is it something else?
 

beerhiker

Adventurer
Thanks for the suggestions! Keep em coming

Yubert, there have been stories of drugs and violence down in Havasupai, very sad.
 

yubert

Explorer
Thanks for the suggestions! Keep em coming

Yubert, there have been stories of drugs and violence down in Havasupai, very sad.

Wow, thanks for pointng that out! I just read the article in Backpacker magazine. It is indeed very sad. Things certainly has changed from when I was last there in 2001. Everyone I met was friendly. I even went house-to-house (okay trailer) with a lady in my group, looking for native handicrafts. No problems whatsoever.

I hope they can clean this up for their sake... So nix that idea, don't hike the Havasupai!
 

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