Great 4x4 van

T.Low

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I would never bring this up if the owner himself had posted it for sale here, but since it's brought up as a topic to discuss from an unaffiliated third party, I think this brings up an important issue.

Meaning no disrespect to the OP; What happens when the very foundation that you've built your camper on gets old and worn out and rusty?

In southern and western states you can keep replacing and rebuilding parts, but in salt belt states...:yikes:

While the pics look good, personally, I'm not sure I'd give $15k for that van. Maybe at $10k it would be worth transferring the camper and 4x4 parts to a much newer, cleaner van...a simple spread sheet would tell us the answer there.

160,000mi on a 5.4. Iv'e seen them sound great at 160k and die at 175k. Trans and motor are a roll of the dice. Front end and brakes, yadda yadda yadda.

But the biggest thing is that it's had 12 years of salted winter roads in southeast Michigan, so the entire undercarriage is going to be one rusted together mess. Working on it is going to be an excersie in torching off nuts and bolts and replaceing electrical connections.

And thats working on it in your shop! Field repairs are going to be a nightmare. And at 160k mi, you can believe it's going to need some attention at inopportune times.

While I do know that $10-12k is a lot of money, I would think that AdventurRiders 2002 Chevy SMB w/ 90k mi for $33k would be a preferable way to go for me persoanlly, assuming its a western van rust free van.

Doin-it, I don't mean to throw rain on your post, it's just an issue and my opinion of it. It's too bad that we can't just call up the used car factory and place a custom order! Thanks. :ylsmoke:


Edit: I grew up in Commerce Township. I'd wager that those are the condos that Roy Lilley built back in the late '70's, early '80's near Waterford off Elizabeth Lk. Rd. Prepare for rust falling into your eyes as you work on that van, should you buy it. I'm just saying...
 
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RocKrawler

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I can speak up for the Ford 5.4 - I'd take it when properly maintained over any GM or Chrysler powerplant. A buddy in CA has over 400K on his 5.4 in his Expedition having only normal oil changes every 3K. I know of more with 300+, its a great motor. As for the chassis I agree completely with your assessment.
 

The Swiss

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... In southern and western states you can keep replacing and rebuilding parts, but in salt belt states...:yikes:
... But the biggest thing is that it's had 12 years of salted winter roads in southeast Michigan, so the entire undercarriage is going to be one rusted together mess. Working on it is going to be an excersie in torching off nuts and bolts and replaceing electrical connections...
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Edit: I grew up in Commerce Township. I'd wager that those are the condos that Roy Lilley built back in the late '70's, early '80's near Waterford off Elizabeth Lk. Rd. Prepare for rust falling into your eyes as you work on that van, should you buy it. I'm just saying...
Well yes, you've got a good point. However, an important factor is if the vehicle was used as daily driver or weekend driver, or just during spring through fall for vacation and trips. I have two friends that just recently bought Class A motorhomes and another guy a camping trailer from the rustbelt. They all have just been used when road conditions were good, were basically in storage during winter. Not more rust than a southeastern vehicle of the same age. Can't beat an Arizona or New Mexico vehicle though :victory:
 

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