Dirt Rider
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have they lowered the price for GMRS license yet?
There's a lot made of iMessage or Signal. Now that's encrypted messaging.Dude, good summery. One of the things that really drives me nuts is the assertion that Winlink being uses by Terrorist! Get a grip. Anything someone wants to ban something, they either scream "think of the children!" or prattle on about terrorists. It's so boring.
In this day and age of endless ways to send and receive messages, I cannot fathom some commie terrorist powering up a ham radio to get comms. Not when you have end to end encryption available on iphones.
After reading some of the postings on the Zed, I can guarantee you they don't like any of it. Seems like if it's not Morse Code, they think it's awful. Perhaps they might try RTTY and PSK31, but aside from that, they seem very adverse to new tech. Funny for a hobby that is driven by technology. I think sometimes what it boils down to is that they don't understand it, and therefore don't like it.There's a lot made of iMessage or Signal. Now that's encrypted messaging.
I wonder what these guys think of spread spectrum, something the FCC asked hams to take beyond the miliary and experiment with 40 years ago. Or PC-ALE, the automatic link establishment on HF that frequency hops to find the best paths.
For sure. Amateur radio was founded, and continues to be a means of experimentation, and should be encouraged as a means to develop new forms of wireless communication. It's one of the big reasons that we still have access to the spectrum that we do. Hams have a rich history of developing things that are now used by all of us, such as cell phones, satellite comms, and many digital techniques used by the telecommunications industry, military, etc. The LIDS causing harmful interference should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible because they're hindering this time-honored process. The spectrum is for all hams, not just the grumpy old ****************** with their 3-6 kHz-wide SSB and AM loudmouth, love to hear themselves talk, modes.https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk...tilityor-both-a-battle-over-spectrum-heats-up
It's not just Winlink they don't like, it's anything they can't tune up and listen to with a boat anchor. It seems to me to boil down to not liking people experimenting or simply enjoying themselves. I take the opposite tack I suppose and try to practice the radio arts by taking every "opportunity to self-train, intercommunicate, and investigate technical matters."
Amateur radio wasn't just sitting around chatting about the weather and your health, although conversation is certainly one aspect. It's about advancing radio and being a practiced auxiliary communication system for whatever might come up and needs it - space, military, weather or civil emergencies or just supporting marathon organizers.
What K0IDT is claiming about Winlink and sailors is no different conceptually than how most OHV users use ham radio now, as an alternative to going with GMRS in effect. Or what about APRS or any digital voice mode?
But who cares as long as it's valid and useful application of the spectrum? The part that disappoints me is K0IDT's position comes from indifference or laziness. He calls Winlink "encryption" because it can't be understood listening with a plain AM/SSB receiver. Of course it sounds like digital noise to the ear and requires a modem and software (almost always open source and usually free) to make sensible, but it's certainly not encrypted. I might find agreement with him over PACTOR for amateur Winlink, but ARDOP exists to fill that void legally and financially.
A simple Google search will tell a listener what mode to use to decode it. The same argument could be made for SSB or FM, which sound like interference to an AM receiver. Technology changes and being unwilling to tolerate some spectrum being used for it doesn't mean the whole service has to be held static.
And it's not just on 40m they're doing it. Intentional interference is something the repeater operators here in Colorado (I think NM, too) have been dealing with lately on the linked systems (Colorado Connection, Skyhub Link, Rocky Mountain Ham DMR). Just don't get it. We just lost our 3.5 GHz spectrum to 5G phone operators, why muck up what we do still have on 2m and 70cm?The LIDS causing harmful interference should be prosecuted to the fullest extent possible because they're hindering this time-honored process.
Yup, get them installed and don't be afraid to use them. It may not always be riveting topics but just keying up and saying good morning to the regulars on a local repeater during your commute is significant. You know your radio works and get to know other hams around you.@DaveInDenver Thanks for the links and insights. I especially appreciate the last part about easing into it.
It may not always be riveting topics ...
Yup. There's a daily morning net here called the Oatmeal Net and it's literally a 10 second check-in with your call sign and what you had for breakfast. Taken out of context it's silly but what it amounts to is 20+ long time friends checking up each other every morning. Gen Z would do it with a quick text, same thing though. Seinfeld was able to build several seasons of TV shows around the routine nothingness that usually makes up daily life.I was listening one afternoon and two guys were discussing what the best jarred spaghetti sauce was.
I was listening one afternoon and two guys were discussing what the best jarred spaghetti sauce was.