Help me pick new tires!!

[unabashedpraise]

1998 Grand Cherokee with 2" lift. Currently running 245/70R16 Fortera's, 90% road driven.

Looking at 4 all terrain tread tires either 245/75R16 or 265/75R16. Should not have any clearance rubbing issues that I could not take care of. I was hoping to get the Cooper AT3's in 245/75 for $118 but discount tire direct just raised the prices. SOOO, now I have more options, but costs more money..

Thinking of:
https://www.treadwright.com/p-58-265-75r16-sentinel-b2b-a-t-d.aspx

Not 100% sold on retread, but the bead to bead looks much better, cheap tires.

http://www.treaddepot.com/tire/352130.html

Love the tread, wanted bigger tires, but too much money.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?pc=11803&ar=75&rd=16&cs=265

Don't know much about the ATP.

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?pc=27115&ar=75&rd=16&cs=245

They raised the price...

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireDetail.do?pc=10805&ar=75&rd=16&cs=245

Looks good.


Seems like maybe these are all in the same boat, and making a decision on one isn't that much different than the other.


Also, has any one purchased the certificates from discount tire before? Seems like buying 2 instead of 4 may save you some money.... Never had an issue with 4 tires at once...

 

[redthies]

For $20 difference per tire, you'd be nuts to buy retreads. I would steer you towards the Toyos. I have owned their ATs, and currently own their MTs. Probably the best tires I have ever bought.

 

[arlon]

I had a set of cooper at3s and they lasted about 250 miles on my AWD Astro van. First graded dirt road I went down resulted in a punctured sidewall. Couldn't find a replacement anyplace in West Texas and it was going to take a week to get a replacement ordered through Discount. When I got a good look at it, I noticed how thin the the sidewalls were. I took the van to discount and had the coopers replaced with E rated bfg ATs. The BFG ATs were being used by almost all of the Border patrol and Parks dept vehicles in Big Bend. I talked to several of the parks and Border Patrol folks and they said as soon as they tear up the original tires they get the AT/KO E rated tires. I figured if they work for them, they should work for me. Rocky roads out here in West Texas are just tough on tires and mud is seldom an issue. Getting an AT/KO replacement in a standard size can be done in almost any town out here.. Costly error on my part but I now have about 8k on the AT/KO tires with no issues and a lot of that has been on rocky roads.

 

[redthies]

BFG ATs are one of my go-to tires. I love them.

 

[RangeBrover]

I can second the fact that the coopers have weak sidewalks, been in the same situation before. Might want to consider nitto terra grapplers, I've been driving on a set now for 20k and they perform flawlessly.

 

[rkj__]

I just picked up a set of tires. I wanted something like the Toyo ATII, or maybe even a Goodyear Duratrac, but I just could not deal with the cost. I started to search local classifieds for tires in be size I was looking for. I ended up getting some Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT, lightly used for $450.

If you don't want to spend a fortune, look to see if you find anything you like used.

I don't have them mounted yet.

 

[Deleted member 13060]

For $20 difference per tire, you'd be nuts to buy retreads. I would steer you towards the Toyos. I have owned their ATs, and currently own their MTs. Probably the best tires I have ever bought.

I would have to agree.......

Just put a set of Toyo AT II's in 265/70R17 LT's on my FJ. Great tire. Smooth, quiet, great traction in everything I've thrown at them so far. Seem to go farther these days in 2wd than I could go in 4wd with the original Dunflops....

YMMV RON

 

[jeep-N-montero]

I only buy good used tires for my Jeeps and truck, craigslist is your friend.

 

[Allof75]

It honestly depends on the kind of 'wheeling you're doing. Some ATs are going to be better at sand, mud, snow, street, or what have you despite the "All Terrian" moniker. Craigslist is an excellent option, but if you're looking to have a warranty on your tires, I would suggest, out of the new tires, the Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac or the Toyo Open Country AT II. I have both right now, on different vehicles.

My Pathfinder has the Toyos, in your 245/75r16 and they've been on there for probably 3000 miles, and they are extremely quiet, ride smooth, have a thick sidewall, and have been very capable in my experience with mud, sand, rock, and mogul. They also do very well on the street, don't chunk to badly, go through water without hydroplaning if you're going a decent speed, and the "rock throwing" grooves do make a difference in my fender wells. I'll only hear a rock or two after I leave the trail-that's it, no sandblasting noise. Overall, excellent tires.

My Ram has the Duratracs, in the 285/75r17, and I have had them on there for probable 15,000 miles by now, probably more. They are not as quiet as the Toyos, but definitely look more agressive. They go through everything I've thrown at them, which has been mud, snow (they have the Snowflake Rating, check it out), sand, rock, and everything in between, as well as lots of street use. They too do very well through water, and the only downfall I've found is that they do chunk just a little when you're going through lots of granite, like our deserts out here have. Some will ding them for the two-ply sidewall, but I haven't heard of any issues regarding that in actual use. Overall, another excellent tire.

Those are my recommendations, you can't go wrong with either. Good luck!

 

[unabashedpraise]

Man, I would like to have some BFG's. However, I can get the set of Toyo AT2's in 245/75R16 for $527, or even the AT3's for $499. The BFG's would cost me ~$900. Holy Moly.

Suggestions that the Cooper's have a sidewall weakness has helped be decide to go with the Toyo's. Thanks for the info!

 

[jeep-N-montero]

Man, I would like to have some BFG's. However, I can get the set of Toyo AT2's in 245/75R16 for $527, or even the AT3's for $499. The BFG's would cost me ~$900. Holy Moly.

Suggestions that the Cooper's have a sidewall weakness has helped be decide to go with the Toyo's. Thanks for the info!

You get what you pay for, especially with tires. I have bought my last 3 sets of BFG's used with more than 50% tread for $200-300. Since 1999 I have been through 3 new sets and 4 used sets of BFG's and will trust nothing else under my Jeeps.

 

[redthies]

You get what you pay for, especially with tires. I have bought my last 3 sets of BFG's used with more than 50% tread for $200-300. Since 1999 I have been through 3 new sets and 4 used sets of BFG's and will trust nothing else under my Jeeps.

I love BFGs too, and have them on our Rubicon, but Toyo makes a great tire as well. The MTs I have on my F350 are way better than the BFG AT or MT. I will be running BFG KM2s on my next truck, as Toyo doesn't make the size I want (255/80R17).

 

[unabashedpraise]

I have scoured cl and there doesn't seem to be any one in my area selling a good used set at reasonable prices. Lots of singles though... I will keep looking until it's time to order.

 

[GilesExpo]

Some ATs are going to be better at sand, mud, snow, street, or what have you despite the "All Terrian" moniker.

^^This. BFG AT KO's are by far the best All terrain tire when it comes to sand and rough gravel roads. When it comes to the slick stuff (ice, snow, rain) Kelly Safari/Goodyear Duratracs shine. I would do research on the Toyo's. I've seen them on several rigs and they do great. Also check out the Falken Wild Peak A/T's. Here's a reliable review of the Falkens: http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles/wheels/129_1101_falken_wildpeak_at_tires/

I personally run the Kelly Safari TSR's and love them to death. But these guys are giving some good advice.
Duratracs, Falken's, and Toyo's are what I would narrow it down to.

 

[Wstrnsky]

Cooper Discoverer ST load range E, get them siped and rotate religiously.