Hey Dodge 2500 owners!

[Heimz]

But YOU have Dana axles which have a wide array of aftermarket support. The AAM axles have VERY little offerings and we are reduced to buying OEM parts for upgrades!


Heck, the Axles have been in our trucks for more than 6 years now and ARB finally released their front locker, and who knows when they will release the rear locker, its been promised for years now. We still only have two options for limited slips too: Trac-rite and True-trac. I'd put a true detroit locker in my pig in a heartbeat.

Everyone says the lack of parts is due to lack of demand. Seriously?

 

[DEEZLPWR]

true true, i am doing an arb for the rear hybrid 70/80, and a ox locker up front with a one piece replacement of the CAD axles...

 

[Gatordoc]

For the CTD guys:

The Power Wagon TracRite E-locker is available for both front and rear diffs.

Rear:
http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2496

Front:
http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=24_47_473&products_id=2469

...and they sell the switchs too:
http://www.justdifferentials.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2470

Mark

Can anyone verify that the OEM Power Wagon e-locker is compatible with the 10.5" AAM found under the SO diesel trucks? I know the front is good, but I have heard from sources of a questionable nature (internet forums) that there is a difference of some sort between the PW and rare-ish Cummins 10.5" AAM axles. Different spline counts on the shafts or something of that nature. I figured they were full of it since it wouldn't make sense for Chrysler to have two different axles for what is essentially the same truck. But automakers rarely do things that make sense and I would hate to wind up trying to install the locker only to find it isn't compatible.

Thanks!

 

[Heimz]

Actually, they're right. The Power Wagon used a hybrid rear axle with a AAM 10.5" axle housing but uses the bigger and beefier AAM 11.5" axle shafts. Im sure they did it to handle the torque multiplication of the Hemi's power running through 4.56 gears. Also, Chrysler does advertise the PW as "the most capable offroad truck" so they might have had to go that extra distance to handle the abuse people are obviously going to subject it to.


Ironically, youre getting this little nugget of info off them internet forums, aintcha?

 

[crawler#976]

But YOU have Dana axles which have a wide array of aftermarket support. The AAM axles have VERY little offerings and we are reduced to buying OEM parts for upgrades!


Heck, the Axles have been in our trucks for more than 6 years now and ARB finally released their front locker, and who knows when they will release the rear locker, its been promised for years now. We still only have two options for limited slips too: Trac-rite and True-trac. I'd put a true detroit locker in my pig in a heartbeat.

Everyone says the lack of parts is due to lack of demand. Seriously?

I suspect that they are having difficulty getting a locker to stand up to the torque. I blew up rear ends, 5 to be exact, with a 116 HP and 133 Ft/Lbs Torque. How? By gear reduction. You CTD owners don't need gear reduction to do it, even with 3/4T or 1T components. 4.10 R/P x 2.73 T'case x 3.0 auto 1rst gear = a 33.58 crawl ratio. If you were to load a single tire while locked, that's 22200 ft/lbs of break damn near any axle torque.

 

[Heimz]

I suspect that they are having difficulty getting a locker to stand up to the torque. I blew up rear ends, 5 to be exact, with a 116 HP and 133 Ft/Lbs Torque. How? By gear reduction. You CTD owners don't need gear reduction to do it, even with 3/4T or 1T components. 4.10 R/P x 2.73 T'case x 3.0 auto 1rst gear = a 33.58 crawl ratio. If you were to load a single tire while locked, that's 22200 ft/lbs of break damn near any axle torque.

I thought that was the case too, and for a long time. But I then realized that you can get ARB's, Ox-Lockers, Detroits, and a gazillion other goodies for Super Duties, Chevy's, and a host of other brands with odd-ball
axles. Dana 60's and 70's are notorious for being behind diesel motivation and you can pick up a locker all day everyday at 4WP.

I seriously doubt that strength has anything to do it when precedent shows ARB has no problem putting their products in diesel powered app's.

 

[Gatordoc]

Ironically, youre getting this little nugget of info off them internet forums, aintcha?

Oh, the irony is far from lost on me; fortunately the folks on ExPo tend to strike me as much better informed than those other "sources" I mentioned. I'm just bummed they turned out to be right in this case.

it's really annoying how the aftermarket tends to treat dodge owners like black sheep when it comes to developing new products.

 

[Heimz]

it's really annoying how the aftermarket tends to treat dodge owners like black sheep when it comes to developing new products.

Amen, brotha!




Some fellas on a Dodge board have pleaded and finally got a snorkel in the works for the Power Wagon, and theyre trying one out for the Cummins as well from what I heard. Funny how the Porsche Cayenne has a snorkel already, but a heavy duty truck is brushed aside.

 

[Gatordoc]

Amen, brotha!




Some fellas on a Dodge board have pleaded and finally got a snorkel in the works for the Power Wagon, and theyre trying one out for the Cummins as well from what I heard. Funny how the Porsche Cayenne has a snorkel already, but a heavy duty truck is brushed aside.

preaching to the choir, I know!

I heard about the Power Wagon snorkel a while back and got a little excited without really being hopeful. I hope they make it, and it fits my truck as well, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Funny thing is, whoever makes it will likely sell more to Cummins owners than Power Wagon owners simply because CTD trucks are so much more common than PWs.

At least we have excellent, if expensive, suspension options. though that's hardly consolation when I look at the aftermarket support available for my 21 year old 4runner, and that's nothing compared to Jeeps, don't get me started on that...

 

[Rockcrawler]

I suspect that they are having difficulty getting a locker to stand up to the torque. I blew up rear ends, 5 to be exact, with a 116 HP and 133 Ft/Lbs Torque. How? By gear reduction. You CTD owners don't need gear reduction to do it, even with 3/4T or 1T components. 4.10 R/P x 2.73 T'case x 3.0 auto 1rst gear = a 33.58 crawl ratio. If you were to load a single tire while locked, that's 22200 ft/lbs of break damn near any axle torque.

Or with an ~6:1 first gear in the manual, plus the shock load when your foot slips off the clutch prematurely.