Dan Grec
Expedition Leader
And this makes me feel like I'd be fine with a lower mileage 2010 or older with 4.10s or 4.37s and 33s or 34s. I like the older interior a little more anyway.. Also agree I would never go for an auto.
I have a 2011, which is think is the best of both worlds. It's the last year of the 3.8, so they had worked out all the bugs, and when it was stock I regularly got 22-24mpg.
It also has the new interior, which I think is much nicer and more modern. The old one scratches really easily.
The 6 speed makes the 3.8 totally fine in my opinion. I'm not winning any races, but that's not the point.
The Rubicon comes with factory 4.10s, which are great with a 285/75R17 (33) or the BFG 34x10.5r17 (also really only a 33)
-Dan