High Mileage?

AeroSynch

Adventurer
Let me know your budget, and I will see if I can get my 5 spd D-II to it by removing the biggies like lockers, gears, axles, winch, etc. 60k miles and complete service done. If it was in doubt, I replaced it!!!

Definitely PMing you, although it seems like a stretch for me but for a 5-speed DII I will try. :D
 

dcwhybrew

Adventurer
I always hear this "2 to 3k a year" stuff and I don't get it. I have 2 D2's and they don't require anywhere near that amount of maintenance. Do you people just buy junk or something?
Even doing head gaskets will cost you way short of a grand if you do it yourself.

No Walter, I dont buy junk (though the term is purely subjective). But I do insist on maintaining my cars and keeping them in good condition. I address all issues, even the small ones. I have the repair bills to prove it. If youre not spending $2-3k per year my suggestion is (along the lines of your "junk" comment) you're ignoring or overlooking issues.
 

LtFuzz

Explorer
I do agree that a D1 is a better starting point. When I got stuck in CO with my '95 a few months ago a local mechanic and I completely rearranged the engine bay in two days. Youre not going to do that with a D2 4.6.

But the man likes the D2 so why try to convince him they're all money pits? Even if it did cost every D2 owner $ 2-3k a year to maintain that's not an unreasonable amount of money for a hobby if youre serious about it. And if youre a hardcore DIY guy you can get D2 parts trucks for $2k all day long.

11mpg with your XJ? Well, youre in good company then :)
 

LtFuzz

Explorer
Definitely PMing you, although it seems like a stretch for me but for a 5-speed DII I will try. :D

His D2 is sweet.

<$4k isnt going to get you the truck you really want. If waiting a bit means you can get to the $6k range your options increase dramatically.

I dont agree with Dcwhybrew overall, but his point that a crappy D2 will make you hate Rovers is a good one.

With these trucks so much of it is luck, though...

Force yourself to keep checking out nicely built D1s. Maybe they'll grow on you. There is a reason everyone agrees the D1 is the better entry-level choice.
 

dcwhybrew

Adventurer
I do agree that a D1 is a better starting point. When I got stuck in CO with my '95 a few months ago a local mechanic and I completely rearranged the engine bay in two days. Youre not going to do that with a D2 4.6. ..

Lets keep that in perspective; you had to rearrange your engine bay because you had converted your truck to diesel with a non LR diesel engine. If you had had the same failure with the LR, you would have just replaced the necessary parts without modification.

I lost my power steering pump in Artesia, NM (about a "million miles" from nowhere). I ordered another from British Pacific, had it overnighted and the local chevy dealer installed it. It took an extra day because they had to order the proper serpentine belt. So, even with a Rover engine you can get parts with overnight service.

My point to this young man is, these trucks are more expensive to maintain than wrenching on Jeeps. FOr the items he cant fix he'll have to go to a mechanic with the proper computer tools. Bottom line is these cars are more expensive to fix, and unless the OP has parents helping him, or he's has a significantly above average income, he's going to find it much more expensive which could be problematic for him. Personally, I think he is getting bad advice on this thread.
 
I posted my feedback in your other thread, so I won't beat that dead horse. I'll agree with the others though, if your opinion won't be swayed I would seriously recommend at least considering a D1. You can get a mint one for $4k, and there's much less of the electrical stuff that is beyond the ability of DIY.
 

Roverhound

Adventurer
Bull. My trucks are perfectly maintained. Please let me know what you are spending all that money on. What can possibly wear out yearly that needs to be replaced at that cost?
Maybe you buying to many air fresheners.
 

dcwhybrew

Adventurer
Bull. My trucks are perfectly maintained. Please let me know what you are spending all that money on. What can possibly wear out yearly that needs to be replaced at that cost?
Maybe you buying to many air fresheners.

I dont have my repair records for the 02 DII anymore. They went to the new owner when I sold it. I believe I have posted the list a couple of years back on Discoweb so I will go back and search when I get a chance.

I still have my repair records for the D1, which I'll suggest is more problematic than a D2 because of the GEMS related carbon fouling. In my experience the internal engine issues with the D2 were significantly less than the D1 due to the BOSCH engine management. I am not using my 00D2 as an example because that one got a new engine and turned out to be a lemon. I kept it a year or little longer.
 

LtFuzz

Explorer
Lets keep that in perspective; you had to rearrange your engine bay because you had converted your truck to diesel with a non LR diesel engine. If you had had the same failure with the LR, you would have just replaced the necessary parts without modification.

I lost my power steering pump in Artesia, NM (about a "million miles" from nowhere). I ordered another from British Pacific, had it overnighted and the local chevy dealer installed it. It took an extra day because they had to order the proper serpentine belt. So, even with a Rover engine you can get parts with overnight service.

My point was that extreme field modification is easier on a D1 simply because there are fewer systems that are more flexible and more physical room to modify a 3.9/4.0 than a 4.6 should you need to. We can all agree that parts availavility isnt usually an issue.

This shouldnt be a fight to determine who is "right" -- Aero is simply getting two different, and valid, perspectives.
 

dcwhybrew

Adventurer
My point was that extreme field modification is easier on a D1 simply because there are fewer systems that are more flexible and more physical room to modify a 3.9/4.0 than a 4.6 should you need to. We can all agree that parts availavility isnt usually an issue.

This shouldnt be a fight to determine who is "right" -- Aero is simply getting two different, and valid, perspectives.

Sorry, I didnt mean to suggest you were "wrong", I was merely clarifying for the OP that you had to modify your truck because of a previous modification.
 

AeroSynch

Adventurer
Like I said I have a little over a week to look over various LRs since I am getting paid for my Jeep then, so I will decide where I want to go.

However, now for the important question: This paint does not match, does it? (Rear and quarter panel)

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dcwhybrew

Adventurer
Like I said I have a little over a week to look over various LRs since I am getting paid for my Jeep then, so I will decide where I want to go.

However, now for the important question: This paint does not match, does it? (Rear and quarter panel)

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Nope, it doesnt match. Also look at the right rear wheel arch. The front half attached to the door looks older (faded) versus the rear half. Also look at the right rear bumper, the black trim piece just above the bumper cover is tweaked. So the car sustained a hit to the rear. If the price is right, and those are the only flaws, you might be able to over look those details. I wouldnt, but that is just me. I am picky. You should get a subscription to carfax and run the VINs.
 

AeroSynch

Adventurer
That's true about the fender flare! Hey, is it true that you can practically remove every body panel from a Discovery? Hence why that would be a different color?

Yes on the CarFax/AutoCheck.
 

dcwhybrew

Adventurer
That's true about the fender flare! Hey, is it true that you can practically remove every body panel from a Discovery? Hence why that would be a different color?

Yes on the CarFax/AutoCheck.

Seems like it is true, but I dont know for sure. Someone else will have to chime in. As far as the paint color, the body shop that did the repair may not have had the paint code and was trying to match it visually, or they used the wrong year paint code, or who knows.
 

jgdisco2

Adventurer
I had a d2 all 4 yrs of college, commuting everyday about 60 miles with it. It can be done, the only time it almost broke me is when gas hit $5. Find one that's been maintained like others have said and stay on top of it and you will have yourself a sweet, fun ride through school!:sombrero:

Ps: mine had 170 k miles when I sold it for my 04
 

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