Home Built RTT

Caswell

New member
I've been trying to get ideas of how the big companies are building them, and they don't look all that complicated. I can't seem to find any example of people building tents similar to something like the Eezi-Awning 2200.

Is there a reason people don't try? Is there a good build thread I missed?

I've already started messing about in AutoCAD, and I was just about to load up Solidworks so I can properly check things like clearance. If all goes well, I should have a build thread eventually...
 

Martyn

Supporting Sponsor, Overland Certified OC0018
Well RTT's are difficult to make.

You have to be a carpenter, engineer, metalworker, and fabric worker all in one.

Once you find the fabric you want to work with, you have to sew it, and then it has to fit the frame well.

After reaching that point it has to survive riding on top of your vehicle and keep you out of the elements.

It takes a lot of time and effort and the end product may or may not work.

By the way, welcome to the Portal. Maybe you could share a little about yourself.
 

FlyNdrive

Adventurer
Wasn't there a thread where a member said thar RTT's were simple designs and set out to make one on his own? The trhead died and he never completed it.

I would love to see some home built RTT's in here to show what we are made of. I'm sure it will probably eabout the same in cost & blow the budget with time, but it's the journey, not the destination, right?

Good onya!

-Ben
 

Caswell

New member
Wouldn't call myself a full out carpenter or an engineer, but I've work in a millwork shop as a draftsman. Gives me access to routers, saws, etc...and best of all, a CNC machine :D

The wife can take care of the sewing...I wouldn't even try to do that.

We do a lot of subcontracting with metal fabricators...if I pay for materials, labour only costs beer!

I definetly wouldn't call it easy...and I don't doubt there is a chance I might built a hunk of scrap metal...but we'll see. I'll post up in a few weeks with a 3D model hopefully.
 

compactcamping

Explorer
Caswell, the short answer is, it's not as easy as it looks. Speaking from personal experience, there has been a learning curve in working with fabric. The translation from this is the size / design I'm thinking about, to a functional tent is a lot of work.

That said, anything is doable. You have to ask yourself "why"? If it's to save money, a one-off will cost more than you can purchase one for. If it's to get it your-way or the satisfaction of making something with your own two hands and money is no big deal, go for it.

My current tent project has been in the works for over two years, see my thread DIY Trailer / Roof Top Tent
 

oldboyscout

Observer
I've thought about this too. I have an old (original) Air Camper missing only the canvas, which seem like the most difficult part to make.
Seems to me the simplest RTT would be similar to VW camper tops. A rigid roof of light plywood or metal frame with skin. Then you just need some simple cloth shapes for the sides and back. Of course it's closed footprint would have to be at least 4' x 6-1/2', but that would still fit on a trailer or any roof except a wrangler!
 

jeepdreamer

Expedition Leader
Evolution...

Somebody did it first.
Another may have seen it and and improved upon it....
Give it a try, I'll watch!
 

Cody1771

Explorer
i was camping once, and i saw a fellow that had some swing out awning arms made of steel, basically the length of the roof line of the vehicle that where a triangle, anyways, they swung out and locked open with a bar across the tips, then he pulled out a piece of wood that sat perfectly undernieth the roof rack, and pitched a tent on top of it and used s tep latter lol, RTT and an awning all in one
 

crusader

Adventurer
Wasn't there a thread where a member said that RTT's were simple designs and set out to make one on his own? The thread died and he never completed it.

Funny, I thought this was a new thread and read back through to the OP, which was a year ago. This too is a dead thread with a (presumably) incomplete project.



As for a rooftop tent build...well! Nobody will ever realize how much thought I've given this very topic. There's really only one design that minimizes the stowed footprint, but maximizes interior room when deployed and is uncomplicated mechanically. Yes, it's the Eezi-Awn/Hannibal/ARB/Howling Moon/Echo/Tecnitop RTT format. One just needs to imporve on that superb design.

I have been diverted by other projects, but am slowly coming back around to completing my own RTT. It's the lowest item on my priority list, so it gets back-burnered at the drop of a hat, unfortunately. As a matter of fact, I've even cannibalized parts off this prototype to develop other, higher priority projects. :(

I've recently been given an imported tent frame/base/ladder that had the fabric destroyed by mice. I wanted to compare it to the RTT I've half-built. To say the least, I was absolutely unimpressed with the un-named imported RTT.

My framework and base are not military grade, but is closer to military-grade than 2010 consumer-grade. That import RTT is what I would consider to be barely consumer-grade. That really surprised me--very disappointing. It turns out that there is only a very slight weight penalty for building to a much higher standard. There is a cost penalty, however.


Some considerations/plans/concerns I have:

1) Eliminating/minimizing interior condensation: I don't want to have to use a rain fly. I want to try to use a waterproof breathable fabric (specifically Gore-Tex) for the tent fabric. Even still, condensation will form inside on cool or cold nights without superb ventilation or an insulated liner. Gotta work this one out...it's an age-old obstacle to tent makers.

2) Reducing drag while traveling: Reducing the height of the stowed RTT is the key to reducing drag. Does one really need a 2 inch mattress? That adds 4 inches of height to the stowed RTT. Can people be satisfied with a 1/2 or 3/4 inch-thick closed-cell foam pad bonded to the tent deck?

3) Deck Material: I plan on using a .090" sheet of 6061T-6 aluminum as the deck material instead of plastic-covered plywood/particle board (or whatever material the others use). This weighs about as the same as the plywood but costs significantly more.


Not counting sewing labor costs, I've figured out that I'll come in well below a thousand bucks (probably in the $700-$800 dollar range to make a[n] (argueably) better RTT than is currently available.

Don't look for any build thread or progress reports anytime soon--I've thought of 3 higher-priority projects just in the time it took me to type this long post. ;) It'll get done, though.
 
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Mike S

Sponsor - AutoHomeUSA
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Some considerations/plans/concerns I have:
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2) Reducing drag while traveling: Reducing the height of the stowed RTT is the key to reducing drag. Does one really need a 2 inch mattress? That adds 4 inches of height to the stowed RTT. Can people be satisfied with a 1/2 or 3/4 inch-thick closed-cell foam pad bonded to the tent deck?

3) Deck Material: I plan on using a .090" sheet of 6061T-6 aluminum as the deck material instead of plastic-covered plywood/particle board (or whatever material the others use). This weighs about as the same as the plywood but costs significantly more.
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A couple suggestions...

A very thin mattress does not provide enough insulation under the occupants in cool/cold weather. I think 1" to 1-1/2" would be absolute minimum. Also if the mattress is 'bonded' to the flooring, it will be problematic when wet, dirty, or worn. I would reconsider this idea and suggest a removeable mattress with removable cover.

Deck Material - A metal floor will not provide adequate insulation, and will be cold. The cold surface will create condensation under the mattress, which will also become dam and cold. A wood or composite floor might be more successful.
 

Zelix

Adventurer
I've been trying to get ideas of how the big companies are building them, and they don't look all that complicated. I can't seem to find any example of people building tents similar to something like the Eezi-Awning 2200.

Is there a reason people don't try? Is there a good build thread I missed?

I've already started messing about in AutoCAD, and I was just about to load up Solidworks so I can properly check things like clearance. If all goes well, I should have a build thread eventually...

I had the same idea. After I looked into the cost of buying a commercial/industrial sewing machine needed to sew the fabric I had to rethink my idea.

I ended up buying a used canvas for a RTT. I am making the rest of the tent.

Here's the thread where I kicked into the RTT build. It might provide you with some ideas of what you want [or don't want] to do.
http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28665&page=7

I'll definitely be following this thread to see what you come up with.
Good Luck
Z
 

crusader

Adventurer
Thanks for the suggestions Mike. My camping experience is with ground tents and it probably shows.

My thinking was (is) that I've found a mattress pad (or 2) to be suitable for ground tent camping, even in the late fall and early spring in New England. My primary concern with a bonded pad is durability. As you indicate, you can't just remove it and clean it and without a cover, it will eventually become prone to damage.

The thing that is attractive to me about using the aluminum sheet is that I'm familiar with working with aluminum. I like its simplicity of fabrication and its durability and strength. It'll never rot or support mold/mildew. It'll never get waterlogged. It is essentially weatherproof. Unfortunately, it transmits heat and cold pretty readily, as you've pointed out.

I don't really like the idea of using wood. I've considered composite construction (foam-cored fiberglass). Though not terribly difficult to work with overall, composites raise the complexity of deck construction twentyfold over wood and aluminum.

Certainly some things to think about/obstacles to overcome...
 

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