How much do I have to modify a Fuso FG?

gait

Explorer
Gait- Would you say that the parabolic springs smooth the ride on "normal", or even "good" roads? I guess the real question is, do they "feel" softer-riding, even though their capacity is equal or more than the stock springs? Still not sure I worded this right, but hopefully you'll get the gist of it!

I can't find where I originally posted and described it (more than 18 months ago) and its difficult to recall the feeling with accuracy as one gets used to things over time.

Recollection is there was an improvement on all surfaces. Most noticeable was the reduction in jarring. It wasn't that I was bottoming the front suspension before change, just short sharp harsh jarring movement. Tolerable, but tiring. Driving at times involved reading the road to avoid the jarring, usually by varying speed.

As well as reduction (not removal) of jarring my parabolics have a "floatiness" feel to them. The first few days were taken with learning to guide the vehicle all over again rather than clench the steering wheel with white knuckles. Not that bad but you get the picture. Never a feeling of being out of control, just a tad less responsive. The floatiness is in the steering but also in vertical movement. More pitch than previous but very much not anywhere near being a concern.

Different surfaces have different characteristics. Concrete roads we hate. The undulations always seem to be at the wrong frequency for our vehicle regardless of the suspension. We had to exit the world's worst motorway in Slovenia. The joins are more tolerable with the parabolics but if you happen to be one of those people who blink when hearing a hammer close by then you'll know how tensing and tiring it can be. But even smooth new motorway asphalt was an improvement - we could travel further for more days and be less tired.

Another odd effect was the ridges of short sand dunes. With the original springs topping a rise the vehicle religiously followed the contour. With the parabolics I feel a detachment, a bit of a delay as the vehicle sort of overshoots while the wheels remain in contact, then the soft landing at the end of the descent. If I saw it on an oscilloscope I'd think in terms of smoothing a square wave to a sine wave. Not like a Daka truck getting into the air at the top, we are quite sedate in our travels. Most open road travel at around 80 km/hr with motorway up to 100 km/hr.

Corrugations are interesting. They not only vary with how the road or track has been made but also the terrain, the traffic volume, and the country. Then add the vehicle and the driver. For example, there's a vast difference between the corrugations created by a landcruiser sized vehicle accelerating through a corner up a hill and an 80 tonne truck/trailer traveling a straight road at 100 km/hr. I haven't traveled a North American washboard road, but I guess it will be different to the already different corrugations of central Africa, Aus, and Asia. They'll always be uncomfortable for me, just less so with the softer suspension with more travel. Fundamentally, our canters aren't designed for them.

Hopefully not "overselling" and "raising expectations" they are an improvement on all surfaces. But just a couple of weeks ago the rear was loaded more than usual and I noticed a smoother ride on city roads. I guess there's always room for improvement and its often a case of knowing when to stop. I guess I'm at the point where the suspension is acceptable (which is different to brilliant).

My vehicle is at the light end for the springs and the tyres which also colours the experience.
 

Gatsma

Adventurer
Wow, Gait; thank you SO much for your very complete, comprehensive, AND most of all, understandable answers to my questions. I think no matter what you do to a truck's suspension to improve it one way or another, there is a compromise involved somewhere. The trick is to compromise in the direction desired WITHOUT too much deterioration of other aspects still in play. Thanks again!
 

Mock Tender

Adventurer
Okay- thanks for the ideas. I had a chance to drive a 2012 FG and it was very stiff in the suspension (the shifting was strange as well). There was no weight on it, so no way to tell how stiff the ride would be when we put 5,000 lbs. on it.

I would like to get an idea of the 2012-2014 FG with no high/low gearing for doing slow creep? From what I read in this forum, hopefully Mitsubishi has resolved the transmission problems: but, even with that how good is the FG for slow woods and mountain driving?

Mark
 

Mock Tender

Adventurer
Yes-
I am looking at either an Escape Trailer (caravan) or a Big Foot. The light weight- 2600- 3000 pounds plus gear would be very light for the Fuso. I am a big believer in over kill.

Mark
 

Gatsma

Adventurer
Hey Pugslyyy- You might want to clarify that unlike Biggoolies and Carl Hunter, who used Bigfoot TRAILERS, you used a Bigfoot truck camper. And you're right. It seems ALL the "Bigfeet" were used with great success, in that the units themselves suffered no failures. It seems Bigfoot builds all stuff like lightweight, but STRONG, vaults!
 

njtacoma

Explorer
There is a 2005 fuso in Colorado Springs at Intermountain Coach. Don't know the price or miles, but a short drive to spend some time in one with a box on the back and "regular" shifting. The new ones don't have a low range in the US market.

It was there on Saturday when I drove by on a visit down that way.
-Neil
 
Last edited:

westyss

Explorer
Hmmmm although I have not measured, my stops are about 3 inches away. Not stock?

Sounds like it has been modified already?? It has been four years since I did my suspension and I thought that the stock clearance was low, 1.5" or so, I first installed timbrens then went to suspension and after that mod was up in the 3" sitting clearance from bump stop.
 

Maninga

Adventurer
Says Used 2005 Mitsubishi Diesel 4X4 129,098 miles for $16,995

I don't know is that a good deal or typical?

It'd be worth a better look, certainly. Pre 2007 so doesn't have all the emissions gear that causes problems taking it through central america.
 

pugslyyy

Expedition Vehicle Engineer Guy
Hey Pugslyyy- You might want to clarify that unlike Biggoolies and Carl Hunter, who used Bigfoot TRAILERS, you used a Bigfoot truck camper. And you're right. It seems ALL the "Bigfeet" were used with great success, in that the units themselves suffered no failures. It seems Bigfoot builds all stuff like lightweight, but STRONG, vaults!
Ah yes thanks for the clarification!
 

dlh62c

Explorer
Says Used 2005 Mitsubishi Diesel 4X4 129,098 miles for $16,995

used-2005-mitsubishi

It's worth a look anyway, if nothing else to help you compare its shape to others you might look at. From the pictures, the interior looks somewhat trashed, but it does come with what appears to be an 8' Tall, 8' Wide, 14' Long cargo body. The cargo body will certainly give you a blank canvas to build from with plenty of head room. These cargo bodies are very stout and can be repaired. You can go to a manufacturer like Morgan to source replacement parts. There are places that RV's go to die which can be a great resource for parts on a DIY build.
 

Mock Tender

Adventurer
Hello one and all-

I drove down to Pueblo, CO today to see my first Bigfoot Trailer 25' and the big Bigfoot Camper. The quality on this and their stout hardiness is fantastic. They weigh quite a bit more than an Escape Trailer- but definitely now on my radar screen.

I also stopped by the place in Colorado Springs to look at the 2005 Fuso FG. The interior is very rough, the engine is pretty oily on the underside and contrary to the big build up by the salesman, the gears ground when going from 3rd to 4th and 4th to 5th. Brakes are squishy as well. On the positive side, the ride was excellent, started well and no smoke. He is talking about wholesaling after October 10th. I won't know for sure on whether my boat is sold or not till the 15th. If it is still there, I would seriously consider it.

Only bad thing today is the speeding ticket I got about five miles from my daughters house. I definitely need a Fuso to slow me down.

Mark
 
Last edited:

Forum statistics

Threads
188,604
Messages
2,907,772
Members
230,758
Latest member
Tdavis8695
Top