Idaho wolf hunt

[squatch]

Couple of springs ago a couple of friends and I went to ski homers young peak in the Beaverhead nat. forest. on the Montana Idaho border. Very close to Salmon Id. We had to chainsaw our way in to the trailhead. well we camped and readied our gear the next morning for our couple night trip. Well we hear what we thought was a moose crashing through the brush and into the creek then this death scream. so we walk 30 feet and are 30 feet from a black wolf as large as that one in the photo ripping the throat out of a cow elk. That was pretty neat to see so close up! They are killers ,this one did not return to feast in the time we were gone. Good luck on your hunt your picking a good spot.

 

[Gunnslinger]

I didn't know coyotes hunted wolves with a 'predator call'. Talented little suckers.

Allen R

Never underestimate the 'Wiley Coyote'.......

 

[BKCowGod]

Never underestimate the 'Wiley Coyote'.......

yah, but the Acme brand predator call will often explode and injure its user.

 

[jeep-N-montero]

As much as I agree with reducing the wolf population I have to ask, what is the difference between a wolf hunting for sport and a human hunting for sport? I have come across carcasses with the head neatly cut off and have had "hunters" admit that they only cut off the head or rack and leave the rest. Some will offer up the meat to others if they want to pack it out but most just leave it there.

 

[JakeMate]

Interesting Wolf video:

 

[john101477]

As much as I agree with reducing the wolf population I have to ask, what is the difference between a wolf hunting for sport and a human hunting for sport? I have come across carcasses with the head neatly cut off and have had "hunters" admit that they only cut off the head or rack and leave the rest. Some will offer up the meat to others if they want to pack it out but most just leave it there.

I have been hunting all of my life in 8 different states and have never met anyone who just cuts of the horns and leaves the rest. Wolves might be different. Coyotes we generally hang them on a fence post and is the only animal I hunt that I dont eat. While some might see wolf hunting as a sport many that live in the areas look at it as depredation for their own benefit, be it livestock or game animals. Any hunter that admits to just cutting off the head of a GAME ANIMAL, such as deer, elk, moose, and even birds, needs to be turned in. In MOST states that is illegal.

 

[john101477]

Interesting Wolf video:

Great Video Jake!!!
Thanks for sharing

 

[Bugspray]

Stating what wolf was or wasn't here is pretty speculative. Bones of elephant, rhino, muskox, lion, camel, sloth, caribou, Bison etc. have all been found around my home hear in Montana.

An argument to support the idea that a large Canadian wolf living in these parts not long ago is feasible. Its likely that the Canadian wolf migrated back and forth from the bison and caribou herds. The recent eradication of the bison (and wolves) could certainly have distorted the range of said wolves. Documented kills of very large +100lb wolves certainly exist in Montana before the reintroduction of anything.

As an avid hunter I see first hand what the wolf is doing to the deer and elk populations, there is no doubt that we need to keep things in check by hunting the wolf. Equally import is bringing back the bison. Bison would do wonders for feeding wolves and they would be great for us hunters to bag on occasion. It would sure take the pressure of the deer and elk.

Doesn't anyone find it odd that Bison are the only natural animal not allowed to roam freely?

The 700-800 genetically pure bison we have in this area roam freely and for the most part everything is copacetic. The only "problems" are when the National Elk Refuge starts supplementaly feeding the elk and the bison push the elk off the feedlines requireing the NER to provide seperate feedlines for the bison. The bison dont need the extra feed they just happened to find a free lunch whereas the elk population is too large for the 23,000 acres they are allowed to winter on necessitating supplemental feeding. They bison are actually good for the the plant life and soil provided they dont congregate in one area to long which bison are not prone to do being natural wanderers. They CAN be highly agressive as the number of bison/tourist encouters each summer far outnumber bear attacks which recieve all the media attention. The threat of Brucellosis is another reason bison are not allowed to roam freely.

Back to wolves. I totally agree with your previous statments. Wolves are both good and bad for "our" ecosystem. Good in that they control the population of elk and deer and prevent starvation, they also make the elk herd stronger by culling out weak and sick animals thereby giving the more genetically robust animals more resources to survive harsh winters. Bad in that they do sometimes like to get into livestock, in 2010 according to the state of Wyoming 26 cows and 33 sheep were depredated by wolves. A very small percentage indeed when you consider the millions of cows and sheep in Wyoming, a percentage nonetheless and it is completely reasonable for ranchers to protect their livelyhood. Dont forget they are compensated for each proven wolf loss(sometimes as high as 7x market value) and the Wyo game and fish removed 40 problem wolves during that same year. Most of Wyoming is shoot on site for wolves barring the red zone around the northwest corner (GTNP and YNP) where a hunting season will be instituted. Hunting wolves in a National Park? Now if I can see the sense of ranchers protecting livestock why do anti-wolf proponents not see that hunting wolves in a National Park directly hurts people whos income depends on tourism and seeing wolves?

BTW last year I saw the Phantom Springs pack take down an old bull bison, it took 4 1/2 hours for the 6 wolves to bring it down but that one carcass fed them for five days and one of the wolves later died from injuries sustained the the attack.

SAVE A TROUT KILL AN EAGLE

 

[Bugspray]

Interesting Wolf video:

nice piece of propaganda

 

[Soobarubin]

http://cryingwolfmovie.com/


Propaganda. Sure.

 

[john101477]

http://cryingwolfmovie.com/


Propaganda. Sure.

wheres the like button?
Propaganda sure, truth absolutley!

 

[Soobarubin]

wheres the like button?
Propaganda sure, truth absolutley!

I'm glad to see support from members in states not affected by wolves!
Thank you!
Come on up to Idaho and get a wolf!

-Jaren

 

[john101477]

I'm glad to see support from members in states not affected by wolves!
Thank you!
Come on up to Idaho and get a wolf!

-Jaren

I have been in Idaho several times both hunting and working. I worked in Burley, Hagerman, Mountain Home, and Idaho Falls. I also hunted in the Anderson Ranch Reservoir area.
I personally love Idaho and cant wait to go back. Sun Valley is possibly one of the most beautiful areas I have ever been with the exception of one place in Northern Cali and GTNP/Jackson Wy