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[Grassland]

Trekker or Trakker?

 

[67cj5]

Trekker or Trakker?

Sorry It's the Trakker 365,

This bag has left and right Crash Zips so you can get out in a hurry and it has a hood at the top underside and one at the feet that will hook over a camp bed and it has Two straps that keep fixed to the camp bed,

 

[WOODY2]

Exped Mega Mat and a Wiggy's for the win.

If you need even more warmth add 1 or 2 of these. Make sure you get the 18 hr. ones, toss one in the bottom of your bag. Available on Amazon and unopened will last a year.

 

[67cj5]

If you need even more warmth add 1 or 2 of these. Make sure you get the 18 hr. ones, toss one in the bottom of your bag. Available on Amazon and unopened will last a year.

LOL,I bought a Box of 40 pairs of those Hand Warmers, The ones I bought are 4"x 2", Not sure when I will use them because I already have the best mitts money can buy and a pair of electrically heated Mitts,

 

[Victory_Overland]

If you need even more warmth add 1 or 2 of these. Make sure you get the 18 hr. ones, toss one in the bottom of your bag. Available on Amazon and unopened will last a year.

Another option is to use Nalgene bottles with hot water in them and toss them in your bag; between the bottle and your body heat, they stay warm for hours. You gotta use that Jet-Boil for all the right reasons.....lol

 

[Grassland]

I use hot pockets in between my doubled up socks. I switch to dedicated sleeping socks, and have another larger pair for doubling up and with the hot packs in between my toes are toasty.

I had purchased a -29C bag from a local outdoor store, but got a call that the 1 left in stock was actually non existent, and the model was discontinued, (which I knew) so ended up with my money back and a 10% discount on future purchases.

 

[67cj5]

I use hot pockets in between my doubled up socks. I switch to dedicated sleeping socks, and have another larger pair for doubling up and with the hot packs in between my toes are toasty.

I had purchased a -29C bag from a local outdoor store, but got a call that the 1 left in stock was actually non existent, and the model was discontinued, (which I knew) so ended up with my money back and a 10% discount on future purchases.

It's a pity you can't get hold of the Trakker 365, It is an awesome Sleeping bag, It's too big for back packing but it's great if you travel with any sort of vehicle and for sleeping outside etc.

 

[Mgyver1]

I also vote Wiggy’s. Excellent quality bag, made in USA and you don’t feel muggy in it.

 

[20DYNAMITE07]

If you're looking for a one bag solution, Wiggy's is probably the way to go. But since you said you don't care about bulk and weight, have you considered a military sleep system? They supposedly will take you from -50 to 50 degrees F.

As for down... I live in the PNW and have a down bag. I sleep in floor less shelters with it regularly, and have never had a problem wetting out. If you've got your mind set I won't try to change it, but they're not as fragile as you may think.

Cheers-

 

[GA Native]

Try a fleece liner.

 

[ITTOG]

Try a fleece liner.

This is it. I feel my fleece liner changed my sleeping bag from its rating at 0 degrees to about -20. Interestingly, my Walmart bag rated at 40 can go down to single digits with a liner.

 

[Alloy]

My understanding of down products is:
1)
Difficult to wash.
Despite best efforts, things get dirty
2)
Don't work when wet/take forever to dry, if they ever do.
If anything is going to go wrong, it is, and that means the bag is getting wet.
3)
Cost
(Example, Western Mountaineering Puma MF -32°C bag is $1075 Canadian dollars)

I'm not looking for a backpacking bag, so I really don't care about weight either, so if a synthetic bag weighs 2# more to do the same job, that's ok.

I'm not hung up on brands either, I just listed the first few products in my budget that are readily available locally.

Synthetic insulation picks up BO more than down. Down is easy to wash (never in a dryer) but these days I rarely (last time I did was 3-4 years ago) do because I hang the sleeping bag up inside or outside in the sun.

Don't matter if down or synthetic gets wet (at -30C?) who's going to sleep in wet sleeping bag?

Condensation is an issue for both types so don't breath into the bag and keep it away from the sides of the tent/ camper.

When this goes on sale it is around $500CDN / $360US. It will last for decades if it is not compressed when in storage.

MEC Thor 2 Windstopper -30C Winter Down Sleeping Bag - Unisex | MEC

MEC Thor 2 Windstopper -30C Winter Down Sleeping Bag - Unisex: A field-proven, cold-weather bag for skiers and winter mountaineers who need warmth and compact volume.

www.mec.ca

 

[Grassland]

Obviously not intending in sleeping in a wet bag, but I'm under the impression I can dry a synthetic bag in the field far faster than a down one.
Yeah breathing condensation is fun to manage. Sometimes your roll or turn your head in just the right way while sleeping to make a nice damp pocket around your face.

Right now the back up plan is my Woods -°C bag from the pop up camper being used as an outer bag, and my hot core junk backpacking bag used as an inner. That has been comfortable to about -15°C

It seldomly gets much colder than a few degrees below freezing when we use the pop up, and we have six other blankets and comforters in it, I won't even notice it's missing.

 

[Victory_Overland]

Solid bivy sack does wonders for a less than super duper subzero bag IMO; they keep moisture out and hold heat in; which can have it's advantages/disadvantages as well. Good ole Ranger roll will never do you wrong either........

 

[Victory_Overland]

Solid bivy sack does wonders for a less than super duper subzero bag IMO; they keep moisture out and hold heat in; which can have it's advantages/disadvantages as well. Good ole Ranger Roll will never do you wrong either........