Is a FJ62 a bad idea as a “expedition” rig?

rc51kid

Adventurer
This is my first post so I would like to say hello to everyone. I plan on purchasing a TLC around the beginning of 2011. So I am taking this time to read everything I can. I have been glued to numerous websites for the last several months reading everything I can. I have a serious soft spot for the FJ40s and FJ60/62. When I found out my girlfriend loves the 60/62 platform the wheels started turning in my head.
We are both avid travelers and do a good bit of backpacking, climbing, biking, paddling and road trips. I will be in a position in a few years to take a travel position in my career. I could relocate every few months if I choose and have housing stipends to cover living costs. The idea crossed our minds that we could load up the LC with us and the two dogs and basically relocate every 2-4 times a year as we see fit to wherever I want to work. This would of coarse include time off between assignments to enjoy camping and exploring. We try to keep a simple life, no kids, mortgage paid, no car payments, everything we own is paid for. The plan is the girlfriend and our two small dogs pilled in the LC enjoying the drive.
So now that I come down off of my day dream, I have to be realistic. Our first choice by a LARGE margin is a FJ62. But is expecting to drive a 20 year old vehicle every day and cross country just unrealistic? We don't need a comfortable ride or nice stereo but we do need reliability and good A/C for the dogs. I can wrench on things but I prefer not to do it on the side of the highway. Also I don't mind spending some money on building the truck and maintenance. But I would rather not dump $20,000 into an unintentional “restoration” project. Is a FJ62 realistic for my needs?
I would really like a 62, my girl friend is just about deadset on a 62. She is almost not willing to consider other options. She has just always like the 60/62 and feels like “you only live once”. But I have spent more time on the side of the road in broken down cars in my past then she has. I am willing to consider a FZJ80 and maybe a 98-2000 4Runner if it is big enough. I keep going back and forth in my head that I am just asking for trouble by picking such an old vehicle when there are other newer and cheaper that will work just fine.
Should I get off of the FJ62 idea and move on to something newer? If I stick with the 62 any idea of a realistic purchase/ build budget? Could it be done for $10,000, 7-8 would be better. What do you think?
 

1leglance

2007 Expedition Trophy Champion, Overland Certifie
first of all welcome...
second of all, make sure to spend some time on ih8mud.com as it's main focus is Toyota Land Cruisers
third the 62 is a rock solid platform with some things to be aware of...
leaf springs could mean a harsher ride than some like
they are getting older but parts aren't brutally expensive and if you keep up on the maint you will be fine
they can be had cheap enough that you can get one with a good body and rebuild the engine from the start so you know what you have and you will learn tons. The motor is simple and straight forward.

Most importantly if she digs them then you are way ahead of the field and she will tolerate much more.

There are some great builds and trips around here like the lost world expedition folks and Roseanne Hanson with rigs like you want.

You don't mention where you live now but I bet if you post up here and on ih8mud that you would like to take a ride in a 62 there will be someone close by who can help
 

Christian P.

Expedition Leader
Staff member
Welcome here!!!

I had one of the most beautiful blue Fj62 around...but never again.

I would suggest you go drive one first. By now they are all pretty old. They are also slow and get horrible gas mileage.

Try to get your girlfriend's mind to focus on something else.
 

Life_in_4Lo

Explorer
clean 62's are rare but even good ones are not that expensive, so that's good. It would fit well within your $7K budget.
Take your time to find the cleanest, mechanically excellent 62 you can.

I remember a few yrs ago someone was selling a pristine 62 for 3500. I would have bought it but didn't want to drive out to Palm Springs... tsk, tsk.

Set aside at least a few grand for upkeep... but that is expected w/ any old car. In fact, I would set aside $3K just for going thru and replacing all the needed and soon to be needed repairs.

but it's a robust, simple truck. The axles are stronger than anything this side of a 3/4 ton truck, combined with an engine that puts out less HP than a Toyota Corolla and you have the recipie for a tank that lasts forever.

Modifications and upgrades are also relatively inexpensive.

If you spend the maintenance time and money up front, it will be trouble free for your cross country trip.
your lady is right, you only live once.
 

ozarkroozer

Observer
I had a 60 for a long time and absolutely loved it. Then I bought an FZJ80 and had them both side by side in the driveway for about a year and a half. The 60 hardly got driven after that. Eventually sold the 60 with no regrets. Although still mechanically sound the more recent incarnations of these trucks are much better in my opinion for a variety of reasons. Id say get the lowest mileage and newest LC you can afford and dont look back.
 

Patman

Explorer
The 60/62 is the last of the truely simple cruisers. Some will argue that the 60 is actually the last. No power anything (including under the hood) Carb with very simple electronics, etc. With the right spare parts and a little macgyver action you can fix anything on the road, but rarely have to.

If you don't mind the ride (which isn't bad with the right suspension upgrades) the speed issue can be solved with an H55, within reason.

Naturally it all depends on what your real plan is. If exploring the US and Canada is the extent of it, and you prefer a newer more urban rig, and can stay within range of the dealer networks. Perhaps a newer "something" may be a good idea.

Like others have said, go for a ride, or even drive one for a few hours in a few different situations. Have your girlfriend do the same. It may ignite a wicked Cruiser addiction, or completely kill the romance of a "retro" rig.

I myself will always have a 60 of some sort, and my wife has made it very clear, that I am never allowed to get rid of it.:) Darn!!
 

jleeFJ62

Observer
I have a 62 that i'm building to be an expo rig. So far, i love it. Yes, its an automatic, its slow, and it gets crappy gas milage. But i went into that knowing its issues. I wouldn't have bought it if i couldnt afford it. I bought my 62 year years ago for 2.5k. 150k miles, great interior, minor rust. So far i've put about 4k in it with new OEM parts and aftermarket stuff. I would drive it accross the US today (slowly of course).
 
I just picked up an 88 with 172k.... for $1500.

The transmission is a bit wonky, but I'm hoping to swap in the 5speed manual. The motor is plenty strong in these trucks, but the problems come from an equally strong transmission that sucks LOTS of power.

I've also considered doing a motor swap. I'd like to swap in a GM Vortech 5.3 or 5.7 with an auto transmission. That swap will give me tons of power, will allow me to easily pull almost anything that I would need, and keeps an auto in the truck. Plus, the Vortechs are OBDII allowing you to use a scan gauge to read the codes. Not to mention when you eventually run into a problem, the motor is so common you can buy parts for it at wal-mart.:sombrero:
 

rusty_tlc

Explorer
What is it with chicks and the 60 series?
My wife eventually fell in love with our FJ60. She hated it at first but it grew on her after a Death Valley trip we took.

Keep in mind we have a 100 series LC that is her daily driver, I have a feeling she would fall out of love pretty fast if she had to replace the 100 with the 60.


Most of the comments so far are spot on. However keep in mind that fuel mileage really isn't so much about cost as range. When you get off the beaten track sometimes Shell stations are far and few between.
 

esh

Explorer
Yeah the 62 is a horrible platform. Cadilac ride, bullet-proof, cavernous storage, just did Rubicon with 33" ATs/open diffs and then three weeks of fairly rough Colorado passes a couple weeks later. No issues, no maintenance needed. Also sucks getting 20mpg and doing 450 miles on a stock tank. Oh and the power is horrible with the HZ/turbo and an H55. I hate being able to cruise at 75 comfortably, climb passes at will.

You couldn't do all the mods I have for under 10k, but you can have the base truck complete for it. A 60 series body would make a better engine swap platform, with the manual transmission stuff already in place.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagons/270772-fj62-destruction-yabt.html

Run away, far away.
 
I am partial to the round headlights of the 60 :) I also do not like the fact that 62's are automatic... but both "issues" are minor personal preference.

On everything else, I am with esh; however, we both paid a healthy amount of cash to the same great guy for diesel conversions (more than worthwile and would definitely do it again).

If you look hard and don't mind a nationwide hunt, you can find a very good deal on a clean 60/62. But definitely consider low MPG's.

I am definitely partial to 60's but I would keep an 80 in mind.

Good luck and definitely keep us posted.
 

jh504

Explorer
I have a 62 and I love it. Out of all of the vehicles I have owned the 62 is my favorite. Having said that I am currently thinking of moving to an 80 series for sheer comfort reasons. Mine is for sale by the way. For a $7000 budget I would go with an 80 series though.
 

memcruiser

Observer
I just bought a 1988 62. I also have a 1998 100 series which I have had for 6 years (hand me down from wife). I have the 100 in an expedition format and the 62 is still stock. My 100 is capable and cavernous. My 62 is smaller slower but cooler. Nobody looks at my 100. People stop and look at the 62 and I have had a few people ask to buy it and I have barely had it a week.

The 62 makes me smile. :) Not that you should buy a truck for that reason.

I have many friends that have an 80 and there is no better off road stock vehicle than the 80. You could buy an 80 with factory lockers, take off the running boards and have an expedition vehicle. Of course armor and winch would be nice but a stock 80 with lockers is an incredible vehicle. That will be my next purchase.
 

toy_tek

Adventurer
FWIW, a 4runner of the vintage you mention will suit your needs just fine. Comfy, capable, super-reliable into the 250k range, decent mpg (18-ish).

But nobody's going to look at your truck twice.
 

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