Thanks for the replies. If I am looking at the Ovrland site correctly they keep the tailgate with their barn door option, please correct me if I am wrong. The Hiatus is interesting but the set up is not for me. I am old with lots of injuries, I should be in a full size RV but I don't want to be stuck in campgrounds. I agree a tailgate is handy, as a shelf and a porch, it is too hard to get over for me now, it was fine back in the day. I see step/ladder set ups for getting over the tailgate, but at my age with injuries it doesn't appeal to me. I don't need a Tommy Gate yet.