The Mantis from Taxa Outdoors seems to be something in the middle. Not quite what we want, but also a lot larger than a lot of people want. Frankly we want something a bit smaller than an R-POD, but same width, and with a tip out bunk. Ideally the tip out bunk means we dont need shore power or generator for AC, but the size (14-16') is big enough to use as a camp ground trailer, but also a fire service road/base camp trailer. If I am going to drop over 30 k, I want something the wife will approve of and use, and something I can also use outside of our typical camping season.