Kerry Where are you? -- Continuation of Mercedes Thread

[MB309basket]

Yes, but the XX09d series can be confusing. The 309d is the OM 352 but the 209d or 409d's are OM 617 engines, roughly the same motor as found in the 300d cars. It's the five cylinder version of the 616.

Thought I had better start a new thread on this, rather than continue the hijack on the old thread.

My 407D had a FOUR cylinder non-turbo diesel, that I was told was same/similar as in the cars of the era. Having never lifted the hood ever of a Mercedes sedan, I have no idea what it looks like down there.

Do you know, or can you point me to, the sorting out what engines went in where?

Thanks.

 

[kerry]

Yes, good idea.
In general the Mercedes vans are interpreted according to their number designation XYZd. X=the capacity of the chassis in tons. YZ= horsepower rating of the engine, hundreds and tens position (07=70 horsepower)
Typical YZ numbers are 06, 07, 08, 09. 06=om615. Roughly the same engine as the 220d car (2.2l 4 cyl). 07=om616. Roughly the same engine as the 240d car (2.4l 4cyl) 09=0m617 Roughly the same as the 300d (3l 5 cyl). 08=OM352. A completely different engine than the 615-617 series. I think the OM352 is direct injection. Others were indirect injection. I say roughly because the van engines have a different injection pump and some other differences that increased the horsepower over the car versions of the engine.
The 309d bus for some reason, doesn't follow these rules.
The early van (pre 77) were made by Hanomag and were front wheel drive. I think they typically had the 615 engine.
These rules apply until the Sprinter series. I don't know the engines once the Sprinter came on the scene. Non of the pre-Sprinter vans were turbo'd by Mercedes. Some camper converters did put turbo's in their vans. There is a British company that specialized in aftermarket turbos on MB vans. I talked to a guy in France who had turbo'd his van and was happy with the results.
Tempo in India is still producing these vans. It also produces a turbo'd version of the 616 which it puts in it's equivalent of the G-Wagon.

Here's a good summary of the vans:

http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/con...n_world/history/chronicle/1955-1994.0005.html

 

[MB309basket]

Wow, and thanks.

Do you walk around with an encyclopedia on your shoulders, or did you have to look that up?

For my part, I am going to print your response and try to remember where I put it.

Thanks again.

 

[kerry]

It's all second nature to me now. I bought a 307d motorhome in the UK sight unseen (only old photos) in 2001. Once I flew over and picked it up I had a religious conversion to Mercedes diesels. When I came home, I then bought MB diesel cars. I've since sold the 307d after using it in Europe for 3 years but I later bought a 409d in the US which I've also sold but I do still own a 1977 300d, 1985 300TD and 1979 300SD.