land rover lr3 V6 best to overland than v8 Canada

weiner

LRC361
Hi

I am thinking to buy a lr3, i know the V8 has more power than v6, my question is...i live i canada
everything is ford, if i need any part i can find in the next morning because is a ford ranger engine,
but if a i have a v8..is more complicated.

This country is really big and to find jaguar parts in overland is not easy but if you have a v6 (ford ranger engine) much more easy.

And the prices are more cheap...is this a good ideia? buy a v6 instead a v8, in my country allmost are cars are ford, if somethings goes wrong with my car i can find parts in the same day and maybe cheaper because is a ford engine...and ford ranger you see one in each corner of the streets.

what is your opinion?

thanks
 

mpinco

Expedition Leader
From what I have read the new supercharged V6, AJ126 ,shares many technologies and parts with the Jag V8. The AJ126 is derived from the AJ133. It is not a Ford engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar_AJ-V6_engine
The AJ126 V6 is basically an AJ133 V8 engine that has 2 less cylinders and is made on the same production line as the AJ133. It shares a very similar block as the supercharged V8 AJ133, with some unique features such as reduced bore size. Much the same story with the cylinder heads.
 

umbertob

Adventurer
He is probably inquiring about the "old" 4-liter naturally aspirated V6 engine used on early model years of base LR3s, not the brand new S/C V6 used on the 2014 LR4. I haven't heard too many good things about that older Ford engine (although I have no direct experience with it), it got the job done and was reliable, but relatively underpowered for such a heavy car (216hp/269ft.lb) according to owners. And it didn't save that much fuel compared to the 4.4 V8 petrol.
 

racehorse

Adventurer
The v6 is bulletproof reliable and works nicely with the transmission. Underpowered? Compared to Umberto's 400hp lr4 fire-breathing v8, then yes, underpowered. But to truck you along on overland adventures - perfect. Remember, this v6 was still more powerful than the older rover v8s.
 

weiner

LRC361
Hi

yep 2006 LR3....there are sow many ford rangers in canada i can find parts anywhere...jag is more complicated.
 

nwoods

Expedition Leader
The v6 is bulletproof reliable and works nicely with the transmission. Underpowered? Compared to Umberto's 400hp lr4 fire-breathing v8, then yes, underpowered. But to truck you along on overland adventures - perfect. Remember, this v6 was still more powerful than the older rover v8s.

As the owner and abuser of an early V6 LR3, I completely agree with racehorse's comments. Especially the part about the transmission. The V6 loves the LR3 transmission, while the V8 seems to struggle with it. My V6 was quick revving, fun to drive, and plenty of power in all situations (I never towed anything though). My V6 LR3 was lightyears more nimble and powerful than any V8 Rover model year preceding it. I drove a V8 LR3 for a few months, and when I went back to my V6, I was surprised not to miss the V8. The V6 is a solid powerplant, and was virtually maintenance free in the 80,000 miles I beat on it.
 

weiner

LRC361
Hi

yep is a ford engine:

The engines used in the Discovery 3 were all taken from Land Rover's sister company at the time, Jaguar. A Ford/PSA-developed 2.7-litre, 195 hp (145 kW), 440 Nm V6 diesel engine (the TdV6) was intended to be the biggest seller in Europe. For the US market and as the high-performance option elsewhere, a 4.4 litre petrol V8 of 300 hp (220 kW) was chosen. A 216 hp (161 kW) 4.0-litre SOHC Ford V6 petrol engine was available in North America and Australia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery
 

Mack73

Adventurer
IMO the v6 does not add any meaningful advantage over the v8. Both engines are very reliable. Any issues you are going to fix out in the bush are going to be related to engine "accessories" that are LR specific.

The disadvantage is you are limited on the years that you can buy since it was discontinued. It might be easier to find a newer vehicle (07+) than finding an 05/06.
 

LandyAndy

Adventurer
What ever LR you buy for travel away from major urban areas in Canada, it will not be easy to get spares quickly (ie within 24hrs) unless there your regular maintenance items. If you want the convenience of a Ford..... buy a Ford. I run a '99 D2 that's heavily modified way out into the bush... but carry a SPOT, VHF, CB and bug out bag & 12g shotty for the local wildlife. If you buy a LR, go prepared ;)
 

I Leak Oil

Expedition Leader
Haven't owned either but as with most vehicles you're more likely to have issues with systems other than the mechanical part of the motor. I think it would be a false sense of security to buy a V6 thinking you're going to get many parts from the counter of your local store.

By most accounts the V8 has been every bit as reliable a motor that Rover has put in one of their vehicles in a long time.
 

rockwood

Adventurer
OP has a valid argument only if he plans to do a major tear down and rebuild.
The V8 was always a Ford engine to. Just not one seen in the US.
 

LR Max

Local Oaf
Sign up for amazon prime. If you need parts, they arrive in 2 days.

Seriously. Amazon has a TON of automotive parts available now. Its quite convenient buying Timken bearings that are not available locally for a reasonable price and having them here in no time.

Problem solved. Oh and you get to order other stuff as needed. My friend lives about an hour away from anything remotely considered civilization LOVES it. Seriously. He will order whatever he needs. Oh out of cleaning supplies? Amazon. Need certain ingredients for dinner in a few days? Amazon. Works like a charm.

But seriously, buy the V8. Flush the radiator and then drive it.
 

LandyAndy

Adventurer
I think Mr 'Weiner' also needs to decide exactly what type of 'overlanding' he's going to do here.... we've prob covered about 10,000km on FSR's in the past few of years but most of that was weekend aways. The D2's great for weekend aways exploring the local back country, in that I mean FSR's within about 3hrs of home to trail head on the highway. However, once you start to head further afield & trips are 3/4 days plus then the D2 is just too small a platform. So, we'll be upsizing to a 1ton & camper in the next few years to do the 3-4 week trips were planning. If your going to be town hopping & can get a motel every few days great....

Just my 2c ;)
 

KyleT

Explorer
It's not the motor that let's you down on these trucks. Either way when a module craps out you are still stuck.

Fwiw nothing that would fail on a v6 is common ford anyway.
 

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