Last Minute: El Camino Del Diablo, Dec. 19-21, 2008

ExpoMike

Well-known member
Howdy everyone in ExPo land. Plans have changed and my wife and I are not going to Panamint Valley this coming weekend. We are looking to cross El Camino Del Diablo from Ajo, AZ to Yuma, AZ.

Plans are to head out from San Diego about 8am heading east on I-8 and down to Ajo. The ranger station is open Friday until 4:30pm, so permits can be picked up on site that afternoon. From there we will head to Papago Wells to camp for Friday night.

Saturday break camp and head west and spending the night at Tule Wells. Based on what I have been reading, we should also have enough time to explore Christmas Pass area, which we could find a spot to camp at instead.

Sunday continue west to Yuma and then back to San Diego via I-8. Figure we should be back by late afternoon.

Friday-Sunday looks good for weather and I will be calling on Thursday to verify the trail conditions are open.

There is a limit to a max 4 vehicles so if a few others want to join us, post up and we'll work the details out.

Hope some ExPo folks might want to join us. :chowtime: :wings:
 

ExpoMike

Well-known member
SOCALFJ said:
I'd love to join you as well Mike, but i'll be doing the testle hike in Anza.

Yeah, it's a bummer no one seems to be joining us. I know your Thanksgiving trip to ECDD got cancelled due to rain so I am sure you would love to do this.

I would have done the Anza trip but neither the wife or I are in any condition to hike. For me, 3 knee surgeries and the wife's asthma. It's a bummer as I would love to see the bridge. I actually helped build the sceanery for this canyon at the San Diego Model Railroad Club (in Balboa Park) when it was being built.

You know it's never too late to change your trip plans... :jump:
 

SPertierra

Observer
xj_mike said:
Yeah, it's a bummer no one seems to be joining us. I know your Thanksgiving trip to ECDD got cancelled due to rain so I am sure you would love to do this.

I would have done the Anza trip but neither the wife or I are in any condition to hike. For me, 3 knee surgeries and the wife's asthma. It's a bummer as I would love to see the bridge. I actually helped build the sceanery for this canyon at the San Diego Model Railroad Club (in Balboa Park) when it was being built.

You know it's never too late to change your trip plans... :jump:
If there were a way that I could get a permit in advance, it would be possible, but they want people to watch that video where the jets blow up a mountain(which is cool), and there is no way to get a group permit.
 
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ExpoMike

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SPertierra said:
If there were a way that I could get a permit in advance, it would be possible, but they want people to watch that video where the jets blow up a mountain(which is cool), and there is no way to get a group permit.

Yep, that part sucks. They are open tomorrow until 4:30pm but not open on the weekends. We should get there about 2pm or so. Talked to them just moments ago about trail conditions and everything is open and should be a good run. Nice thing is the dust level should be down a lot.
 

Radio

Observer
If I did not live 2000+ km away, I might have come along...
But, LOL, there is totally not enough notice, and right now its -25c and windy out side... all my shtuff is frozen!
Please post pics so I can sell my wife on this trip.
Look forward to seeing them!
 

ExpoMike

Well-known member
Trip Completed with Pictures

We got on the road Friday morning about 8am. We headed east on I-8 from San Diego and going up the mountains we saw the snow from the storm that passed thru a couple days earlier. We stopped in Yuma for gas, lunch and to hit a bookstore to pick up a copy of Backcountry Adventures Arizona, which we could not buy locally. This proved to be a wise move as without it, we would have most likely gotten lost. We made it to Ajo, AZ about 3pm their time (lost an hour with the time difference). Got our permits and headed to our first camp at Papago Wells. It's about 40 miles in from Ajo and is a fairly mild dirt road. We did encounter our first mud/water on the trail which wasn't too bad but we had hoped to miss. Got to camp after dark, set things up, which for the Kamparoo is fairly quick. Made dinner, got things cleaned up and checked out the great view of the stars. We were only about 40 feet of the trail and heard the Boarder Patrol drive by many times during the night. Outside of them, there is nothing around for miles.

Slept in on Saturday morning and hit the trail about 10:30am. In the daytime you really get a sense of how remote this area is. We kept talking about how it must have been for early travelers. Overall the trail condition was good with the sandy wash fairly firm due to the wet soil underneath. We did hit a few more spots of mud/water but nothing to worry about. We made Tule Wells about 1pm and originally were going to camp there. We made it early enough, we ate lunch, checked out the adobe building (which we saw the log entry from the ExPo trip back in Nov.) and hiked up to the monument. At that point we decided to make our way up Christmas Pass with the idea of camping there. Along the way we found grave sites, what's left of an old homestead site and some spectacular sceanery. We make it across Christmas Pass, which is the most "technical" part of the trail. We had noticed no one has come across this trail since the rains as we had the only tire tracks. We setup camp just on the other side of the pass, up against the mountain. Great spot and absolutely not another soul around.

Got up Sunday morning before the sun rise, which was beautiful. It was cool and crisp being about 40*. It was nice that outside of a light breeze, there was no wind to speak of. First trip we have camped and not felt like in a wind tunnel. Had breakfast and packed everything up for the last of the trip. So far we had traveled about 75 miles on the trails. We still had about another 35 miles to go. We head out and the trail turns into a fairly narrow wash, that had a lot of water come through earlier in the week. It was fairly smooth and no tire tracks at all. Based on the map and GPS, we were going the right way. We finally got to a point where the Boarder Patrol had driven to so we were able to fallow the wash and their tracks. It was really smooth and we clocked along about 35-40 mph. This area goes through the Barry Goldwater Range and there is not much there but a very large, open desert. We got near the end and this is where we found 95% of the mud/water on the whole trip. Luckily this was outside of any sensitive areas and locals had already made trails around these large, sloppy mud holes. We sneaked our way around these and got to the road. We aired the tires up and headed back to San Diego. Includin the stop in Yuma for gas and lunch, we got home about 3:30 and spent the next 1.5 hours power washing the mud off the trailer and Cherokee. I shoveled about 15 pounds of mud out of the gutter. I know why people hate mud.

We had a great time, saw a beautiful and very remote area and found it very relaxing. This was our first trip alone, which was nice in the way of having our own schedule but with the added excitement of knowing you have to rely on yourselves if something happened. Knowing the presence of the Boarder Patrol, we did feel we could find help if it was needed. Highly recommend this trip but at least a week after the rain. As for wildlife, we saw a fox, coyote, Kangaroo rat, black tail hare, ravens and lot of other birds.

You can check all the pictures at http://gallery.lisaandmike.org/ecdd but here are some of the highlights. Enjoy!!!

Snow on the way out
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Sunset on our way to camp the first night
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Our first camp spot
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Miles upond miles on the trail
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ExpoMike

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More pics

Adobe hut at Tule Wells
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Got mud? It was worse by the end of the trail
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One of the many unmarked graves
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Coming thru Christmas Pass
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Our camp site at Christmas Pass, very remote
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Sunrise Sunday morning
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No one has been down this trail in a while
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Check out all the rest of the pictures in our gallery. (Link in above post)
 

adventureduo

Dave Druck [KI6LBB]
Great shots Mike. I have to hand it you. No matter how experienced i am, i doubt i'd go run that trail solo. Glad you had a good time and made it back safely. Im jealous, i want to run that trail 'still'.
 

ExpoMike

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SOCALFJ said:
Great shots Mike. I have to hand it you. No matter how experienced i am, i doubt i'd go run that trail solo. Glad you had a good time and made it back safely. Im jealous, i want to run that trail 'still'.

I don't know, it really wasn't that difficult of a trail. I think the biggest thing in the back of my mind was a mechanical breakdown. Then you're kind of on your own if a solo rig. Since there is a very large Boarder Patrol presence in the area, I didn't feel that I was out of options should that happen.

I had hoped someone from ExPo might have joined us but it was quite a last minute change in plans. Glad we did it since I was bummed we didn't do it back in Nov. You would have made it with little effort, outside of cussing about the mud. :smiley_drive:
 

adventureduo

Dave Druck [KI6LBB]
Yep, exactly.. i was referring to the remoteness of the trail in case of a break down. Good deal though, like i said.. glad you made it through with no problems. Still jealous. There's always next year.
 

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