LC 100 series diesel ?

[UK4X4]

I have manged to find a few ex lease high milage diesel LC's, around four years old with around 250,000km .....

They are ex oilfield vehicles with internal roll cages and dual tanks

I know its not a US released vehicle , but wondered if anyone has any experience of this truck ?

ie what issues are there with high milage 100 series.....most will have been speed limited to 120km/hr but used a lot on road to and from the sites and then desert tracks

they are base models...manual....with center dif lock, no leather, lockers etc etc.etc

stone chips galore and standard white paint in need of loving care and attention.....

Price is around 15 to 18K for 2002-3's

as much as like an old 70 or 45 series...these seem to have all the main bits

diesel-dual tanks- base models not much electronics...

Everything else around here is older/ gasoline and well high milage...and 80 series around here sell for 15K with 380,000 km.....

How easy to do a small lift and HD the suspension ?

 

[roscoFJ73]

Its probably a 105 series. Its more closely related to the 80 series than the 100 series and it has the solid axle. The weak points in these is the R151 gearbox and the front diff ,although gentle owners can get good miles out of them.
The 1HZ engine is good for 350000 + klms and they can take a beating if they are well serviced
They are very popular in oz with government dept and mining companies and are readily snapped up at auctions if they are in good condition
Lifts are easy and not expensive. Most owners get at least 3 inches . Dobinsons and OME and others have a choice of lifts for these
Without the speed limter they wont go much faster,maybe a 140KPH
The HZJ105 will probably be my next cruiser

 

[calamaridog]

Roscoe, those would be HDJ100's. Diesel and IFS, not a 105 which is SFA and I6 petrol. Very similar to the UZJ100 v8 petrol models. Slight differences in the front suspension from the v8 petrol model concerning the torsion bars.

Check for cracking around the lower control arms. This was an occasional problem if I remember correctly, there is a simple fix for it too. I don't know much about this issue because it doesn't ever happen to the v8 petrol models.

Adding the 2" OME lift is easy stuff. You could easily turn some 33" tires with that motor and stock gearing.

Remember, that is the model that won Dakar year in and year out. Those are solid trucks. Both Production and Diesel Production class winners from Team Toyota Auto Body were the HDJ100 model and often they placed 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

Good luck and post some pics so I can be jealous.

 

[roscoFJ73]

Im assuming it is a 105 because it has the dual tanks and he says it is a base model. Most of the 105 are diesel.
And they are what oil companies use unless he is in North America:coffeedrink:

 

[charlieaarons]

The weak points in these is the R151 gearbox and the front diff ,although gentle owners can get good miles out of them.

Do you know which transmission the current HZJ78 or diesel V8 Troopies use? Does it have durability problems?
IMHO the H55F was the best all time LC trans (actually the H41 was more durable without the odd oiling system for 5th gear, but it didn't have the very nice 5th gear). I have no prejudice against aluminum gearboxes, I have the highest respect for ZF S5-42/47 and S6-650 used in Ford pickups and many other smallish trucks worldwide.

Charlie

 

[UK4X4]

Thanks for the input, had to swallow hard for the dosh required so I've bought a cheaper option..see other thread

 

[MoGas]

Easy there C-Dog, I'm positive you could get diesel 105s.

UK, do these have IFS or a solid front axle?

Roscoe, those would be HDJ100's. Diesel and IFS, not a 105 which is SFA and I6 petrol. Very similar to the UZJ100 v8 petrol models. Slight differences in the front suspension from the v8 petrol model concerning the torsion bars.

Check for cracking around the lower control arms. This was an occasional problem if I remember correctly, there is a simple fix for it too. I don't know much about this issue because it doesn't ever happen to the v8 petrol models.

Adding the 2" OME lift is easy stuff. You could easily turn some 33" tires with that motor and stock gearing.

Remember, that is the model that won Dakar year in and year out. Those are solid trucks. Both Production and Diesel Production class winners from Team Toyota Auto Body were the HDJ100 model and often they placed 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.

Good luck and post some pics so I can be jealous.

 

[UK4X4]

IFS suspension, dual tanks may not be factory, but look it, with sub tank lights in the dash and a switch on the lower lhs of the dash

Here in Oman its oilfield requirement for a second tank / containers

ie you can't go on site without them.

They both sold from the lot, and were replaced with petrol versions.

Here in Oman most oilfield trucks are leased for 4 years and come from the dealer with all required safety gear.

Internal roll cage/extra rear break lights/stone guards on the lights, dual tanks, internal cage seperating rear from passengers and dual spares, one in factory position and one in the trunk.

Seeminly they have so many leased that every week they have more on the lot.

With today's enviroment, I just did'nt want to have so much money tied up in a vehicle in an odd country

 

[4Rescue]

For what it's worth, R151F's were used behind Toyota Rally cars and almost all of Rod Milens Pikes peak challenge trucks/cars... I'd hardly call them a weak link.

Cheers

Dave

 

[roscoFJ73]

For what it's worth, R151F's were used behind Toyota Rally cars and almost all of Rod Milens Pikes peak challenge trucks/cars... I'd hardly call them a weak link.

Cheers

Dave

They are weak and there is numerous links on aussie sites about the problem.
I visted a gearbox/diff rebuilder when I was having some work done and asked them where they were weak.
Answer: "Everywhere from the 2 piece shaft,the bearings ,synchroes,and the shift forks"

My brother was a shift boss in a large goldmine. The R151 caused so many problems ,the mine owner called a meeting with Toyota.

If they are not under constant load and have a careful driver,they can last.
But they are nothing compared to the old H55F

 

[roscoFJ73]

IFS suspension, dual tanks may not be factory, but look it, with sub tank lights in the dash and a switch on the lower lhs of the dash

Here in Oman its oilfield requirement for a second tank / containers

ie you can't go on site without them.

They both sold from the lot, and were replaced with petrol versions.

Here in Oman most oilfield trucks are leased for 4 years and come from the dealer with all required safety gear.

Internal roll cage/extra rear break lights/stone guards on the lights, dual tanks, internal cage seperating rear from passengers and dual spares, one in factory position and one in the trunk.

Seeminly they have so many leased that every week they have more on the lot.

With today's enviroment, I just did'nt want to have so much money tied up in a vehicle in an odd country

So it is a 100 series then. Is it turbo?

 

[roscoFJ73]

Do you know which transmission the current HZJ78 or diesel V8 Troopies use? Does it have durability problems?
IMHO the H55F was the best all time LC trans (actually the H41 was more durable without the odd oiling system for 5th gear, but it didn't have the very nice 5th gear). I have no prejudice against aluminum gearboxes, I have the highest respect for ZF S5-42/47 and S6-650 used in Ford pickups and many other smallish trucks worldwide.

Charlie

The HZJ78/79 had the R151. It started life in a Supra,then the Hilux got it and then the 78/79 and 105 series.
It is no longer used in the new V8 diesel.
The V8 diesels are known as VDJ78/79 and use the H151 or H150,same as the 100 series and the HDJ78/79 and FZJ78/79 before the V8
I think the H150 had some issues in the 80 series back in the early 90s but was fixed.
They are usually good for 300000klms

 

[MattScott]

Is this a vehicle you can bring into the united states?

I'm curious if there is a lack of toy diesel like there is rover.

 

[BiG BoB]

Just to clarify, both the 100 and 105 series Landcruiser were available with Diesel motors, and both were available with twin tanks (main/sub) - at least in Australia

I wouldn't be buying a vehicle from any sort of resource industry company, unless you were familiar with the vehicle and its driver, they get thrashed....

Sean