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Antwon412

Well-known member
Little by little it’s becoming my Overland Road. Mounted up some KC off-road lights. Still need to wire those up and then swapped out the factory runningboards for the aftermarket ones that are a couple inches higher and tighter to the body

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Overlandtowater

Well-known member
I like how you've trimmed front and rear bumpers/body for more clearance/approach/departure. I cant cut the body on my 8.1 burb but I have another 1/2 ton burb project that's going under the sawzall for sure
Just check out the build page....on the rear I just trimmed the bottom even with the bottom of the rear most body mount, the front I just removed the bumper and for now the bumper cap is just zip tied up.
 

bozwell13

Adventure Dad
Just bought another 1/2 ton 4WD burb at a local NM Fire Department auction. Has 190K, straight, clean, rust free, power everything, has an engine noise (my guess is the usual 5.3L worn out cam and lifters) Added bonus is new tires, massive equipment drawer in the back and a big Warn winch hidden under the front bumper. Paid $550. This is going to be a weekend camping rig that Im not afraid to pinstripe in the bushes.
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IdaSHO

IDACAMPER
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NMC_EXP

Explorer
Nissan and Toyota still sell simple,boxy and in some cases diesels, trucks and SUV's in the Mideast and Africa. Solid axles,hubs,manuals etc. What the hell happened here?

Marketing decisions based on what soccer moms want I reckon. I prefer the utilitarian and plain styling myself . Both interior and exterior. Only frills I need are heat, AC and an AM/FM radio.

The W250 Dodge is a 93, last of the square body design. Then they made them all soft and cuddly looking.
 

Hilldweller

SE Expedition Society
I would argue that "boxy" is a subjective qualification and while a cube does maximize interior volume it's not necessary that the outer edges be creased for this and sharp creases mean wind noise and typically poor aero performance. Those factors may not seem important to a user who's going to play Katamari through the overland bro store but there are a lot of people who yet value efficiency and refinement.

And safety - as I understand it the LC7x series would fail American pedestrian safety standards which nobody cares about until it's their own loved ones preventably in a wheelchair.

Still I think the 79 could be made to meet the technical qualifications to sell in the USA it's not as if Toyota is lacking in talent or resources to invest if they wanted to. So I think the obstacle (real or imagined) is that for some reason nobody wants to sell a genuinely utilitarian vehicle in the USA. We have no pickups sold from the factory with an aluminum utility tray despite that those are totally normal in other markets.

We have highways with 80mph speed limits in many states and even if there's only a small sweep of the needle between 60 and 80 on your gauge cluster the amount of kinetic energy (nearly) doubles and the same thing happens to drag force from less than ideal aerodynamics. In other words a car made to travel 80mph routinely needs to be "twice as good" in all of the metrics concerning force, heat and consumption as it would need to be if 60mph was its usual cruise speed. A LC7x might just not be a very good vehicle at 80mph and I don't think there's any practical way to sell a product in America with a "Hey d**kwad this is a tractor don't drive it like a sports car" warning sticker because Johnny Murrica is inclined to interpret a warning as a dare and then turn around and sue somebody when their own actions bite them.

Likely it's a combination of all of these factors convincing Toyota it's just not the right market for those products.
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X Terra Firma

New member
My 2014 f-150 svt raptor I picked up used with 49k,xxx miles. Original owner added wheels/tires, bumper and lightbar +pods, Icon 3.0 shocks front and rear along with Icon UCA's but never took it off road :). Here's a few pictures from a quick family trip to Palm Springs from the coast, was pleased to be able to get 18mpg highway with cruise control and quite happy about with the 6.2l. I have a few more things Im working on adding to the truck like a proper first aid setup, radio and camper shell

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Another older photo camping in Sedona

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NMC_EXP

Explorer
because Johnny Murrica is inclined to interpret a warning as a dare and then turn around and sue somebody when their own actions bite them.

If you meant to include me in that category, you're wrong.

For me form ought to follow function. I do not like being enveloped in a cab that is like a cocoon. I do not like to pay for a lot of features I do not need or want. I do not want to pay for wasted/unavailable interior space given the exterior dimensions of the vehicle.
 

phsycle

Adventurer
If you meant to include me in that category, you're wrong.

For me form ought to follow function. I do not like being enveloped in a cab that is like a cocoon. I do not like to pay for a lot of features I do not need or want. I do not want to pay for wasted/unavailable interior space given the exterior dimensions of the vehicle.

Unfortunately, people like you, meaning, a niche market (spartan utilitarian) of a niche market (overblander), make up nearly zero percent of the buyer market for Toyota. Why do you think they got rid of the Hilux here? Nobody freaking wanted to buy a stiff riding work truck. Good luck getting them to sell a 70-series here.

PS - I’m also in that niche/niche category.
 

Ron B

Explorer
I remember when I bought my hummer in 2005 I was getting flipped off by those every time I drove my truck.
How times changed Now is unbelievable.
now days it’s thumbs up everywhere,

I always expected that living in Los Angeles, though don’t think I have ever seen any ire directed toward me or my truck since I got it in 2004. I think the secret is actually using it, and not washing it ;-)

I usually keep the top off during the cooler months here and on at least three occasions have had people walk up to me in the truck and ask what kind of Jeep it was — I had to point at the Hummer logo to prove it was what I said it was. Don’t think they often see any with the top off let alone covered in dirt/brushrake.

by the way nice rescue Eric! I don’t often venture out alone but definitely wouldn’t without a winch/pull pal and some jack or device to help if high centered (airjack is good to have)
 

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