Lifting a stock Wrangler - Questions ????

mrchips said:
Use Rubicon Express Springs

My take on observing RE springs over the years is that they do not "stretch" very well and particularly on the front end, they will drop out of the upper perch before they stretch. The best springs that were ever on my Jeep were a set of OME 2" springs and Currie 4" springs. If you are looking to stay on the small side, you can run a very nice set of 31's with the OME springs and have a factory or better ride quality.
 

madizell

Explorer
robert j. yates said:
My take on observing RE springs over the years is that they do not "stretch" very well and particularly on the front end, they will drop out of the upper perch before they stretch. The best springs that were ever on my Jeep were a set of OME 2" springs and Currie 4" springs. If you are looking to stay on the small side, you can run a very nice set of 31's with the OME springs and have a factory or better ride quality.

All coil springs will leave the bucket if not captured, but if your suspension can travel beyond the length of your springs, travel should be limited with a strap.
 
madizell said:
All coil springs will leave the bucket if not captured, but if your suspension can travel beyond the length of your springs, travel should be limited with a strap.

Typically on a TJ, you do not need to capture the front springs.
Watch a TJ with a set of RE front springs next time you are out on the trail ...the springs simply do not stretch and will leave the perch. I understand what you are saying and am not debating it but IMO, they are poorly designed.
 

troy

Adventurer
I'd suggest OME springs and a set of 31" tires. Good capability and re-gear not needed.

I had a 2001 TJ that rode better than stock on 33" tires. I also did not regear, but I had the auto and 3.73 gears and it was perfect IMO:

2" OME heavy duty springs
1.25" JKS body lift
1" motor mount lift
33x12.5 BFG Mts on stock wheels
1.25" spidertrax wheel spacers

I still miss that Jeep. I'm currently driving a cherokee with OME suspension and it also drives better than stock. Dirk at www.dpgoffroad.com was my OME supplier. He really knows the OME stuff and his prices are good. He also has some hybrid lifts using OME springs.
 

madizell

Explorer
Ride height and load support can be accomplished through a variety of design parameters. Fewer, heavier and stiffer coils will give the same compression numbers as a coil with more loops and a progressive taper, but they will have different travel numbers. The progressive coils will have more stretch. If RE coils tend to lift out of the bucket on full flex with stock suspension, they are in fact not built right for an off road car, and travel would have to be limited to accommodate the coil. This is perhaps not what your average off road guy would want to do, but might well be acceptable for certain trail use. If the suspension is not stock, i.e., lifted, short arm or long arm conversion, then it would seem RE springs that lift out of the bucket are not matched to that suspension build.

Massive amounts of articulation are not always appropriate or desirable. Depends on what you want to do. The real question with the RE springs would be: how much articulation is available, with your suspension, before the spring leaves the bucket? If it is enough for your purposes, limit travel and capture the spring bottom to make sure it stays in the bucket. If it is not enough travel for your purposes, you have the wrong spring.
 

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